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jar
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Message 4171 of 4246 (879987)
07-27-2020 9:54 AM
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07-27-2020 8:50 AM


It's amazing to me that the Christian Cult of ********* continues to support a man who has been an abject failure in every area of life from his marriages to his businesses to his relationship with his fellow workers to his total inability to stop lying or fulfill any of his promises.

The man quite frankly has no redeeming social worth or value yet is supported by an association of *********** and the willfully ******** as well as the anti-science divorced from reality and honesty Christian Cults.


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Message 4172 of 4246 (879997)
07-27-2020 3:02 PM
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07-27-2020 8:50 AM


i'm telling the FSM you said you want to be a Christian, idiot. i guess you don't understand american politics.

trump is the only us president in recent times besides maybe w bush who was a coward so it doesn't matter, whose main motivation isn't power.

his brain is a little twitter-addled, but god doesn't choose perfect people to lead.

mary magdalene was likely a prostitute yet she was the first to see the risen christ.

then again i'm talking to a guy who thinks pasta primavera is lord... yikes


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Phat
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Message 4173 of 4246 (879998)
07-27-2020 3:15 PM
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07-27-2020 9:54 AM


What Makes Christians Ignorant?
Im not a huge fan of trump, though most of my Christian friends who like him list two main reasons, and dont mention the obvious third reason.
1) He supports Israel
2) He is against abortion.
and the elephant in the room
3) Their small businesses did a lot better.

But perhaps you can again tell us what specifically makes a Christian ignorant.

If its the belief that Jesus rose from the dead and is alive today (as Spirit) then I think it is you who are ignorant. I fear that your brand of Christianity specifies only that we imitate Jesus and feed, clothe and encourage our fellow humans...not waiting for any 2nd coming or return and not trusting God through prayer and Communion. Your Christianity advocates doing, which is not a bad thing...but you deny the power of the living God. (and will ask me how to test for this power)

The Socratic teachers and their critical thinking which taught you to "throw God away" deceived you.

But it may not be too late for you to learn, if you can lay your pride on the altar.


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jar
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Message 4174 of 4246 (879999)
07-27-2020 3:19 PM
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07-27-2020 3:15 PM


Re: What Makes Christians ********?
Phat, that is all simply more of your sophomoric crap; you prattle on like the typical four year old.

What makes so many Christian ******** is that they were taught not to think; to trust source over content and belief over evidence and fantasy over reality.

I pity you.


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PaulK
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Message 4175 of 4246 (880001)
07-27-2020 4:17 PM
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07-27-2020 3:02 PM


quote:
i'm telling the FSM you said you want to be a Christian, idiot. i guess you don't understand american politics.

Well, you seem determined to drag down the level of discourse here. But it’s hardly the first example of that.

quote:
trump is the only us president in recent times besides maybe w bush who was a coward so it doesn't matter, whose main motivation isn't power.

I guess that greed and egotism might come before power, but I don’t think either are good. Trump is also more power-hungry than most.

quote:
his brain is a little twitter-addled, but god doesn't choose perfect people to lead.

Boasting about passing a cognitive test designed to detect dementia - and claiming that it was difficult suggests that there is something wrong with his brain.

But all the lying he does is something else.

Come on, do you worship Trump as the anti-Christ or do you just think he’s paving the way ?


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proudly roman catholic
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Message 4176 of 4246 (880011)
07-27-2020 6:49 PM
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07-27-2020 3:15 PM


Re: What Makes Christians Ignorant?
you've been trying to get through to these god-iq-complacent clowns for so long. they don't deserve your contributions phat. they never did.

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proudly roman catholic
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Message 4177 of 4246 (880012)
07-27-2020 6:56 PM
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07-27-2020 4:17 PM


i work with people with dementia every day. biden has it and will not be running anything. i don't know what kind of shadow gov they're planning, but joe's going to stay in the basement.

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DrJones*
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Message 4178 of 4246 (880013)
07-27-2020 7:43 PM
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07-27-2020 8:24 AM


the FSM never healed anybody

the FSM heals everybody, praise be unto it.

laughable you thought this would sting

well I guess if you're ok with child rape it wouldn't sting.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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DrJones*
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Message 4179 of 4246 (880015)
07-27-2020 7:56 PM
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07-27-2020 2:07 AM


Re: US Federal Brownshirts
The Federal Government has one duty and that is to protect the homeland from attack from without and within

so department of homeland security is not in the constitution, thanks for admitting it.

You and others here are the only ones I have heard talking about proactive arrests.

then I suggest you pull your head out of your ass and come up for air. Here's an article about it, including video of an interview where the acting head of the department of homeland security talks about it and admits they're operating off of federal property.

Even set them on fire and burn businesses to the ground and no one even get arrested or charged with any crime.
I guess you think that is OK and they have a constitutional right to be able to do that.

anybody who breaks the law should be charged and tried. Including those LEOs who violate peoples civil rights by arresting them without cause.

If you're so law and order focused i guess you'll be calling for the removal of Acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf since he has been in his position longer than is allowable by law (Federal Vacancies Reform Act of 1998)


It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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Message 4180 of 4246 (880019)
07-27-2020 11:27 PM
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07-27-2020 9:54 AM


who has been an abject failure in every area of life

I'd say that he has been a very successful con man.

Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity

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PaulK
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Message 4181 of 4246 (880020)
07-28-2020 12:15 AM
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07-27-2020 6:56 PM


Why do you people think you can get away with pretending to be Christian?

Your sheer nastiness undermines the pretence every time.


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jar
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Message 4182 of 4246 (880025)
07-28-2020 7:28 AM
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07-27-2020 11:27 PM


Once we see his financials I believe we will see that he was not even successful at that.

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Message 4183 of 4246 (880034)
07-28-2020 9:30 AM
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07-27-2020 3:15 PM


Re: What Makes Christians Ignorant?
Phat writes:

But perhaps you can again tell us what specifically makes a Christian ignorant.


The root of "ignorant" is "ignore". You ignore what the Bible says and you ignore the rebuttals of your apologists' lies.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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Phat
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Message 4184 of 4246 (880041)
07-28-2020 10:25 AM
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07-28-2020 9:30 AM


Re: What Makes Christians Ignorant?
True and yet not the whole story. Its not that I ignore what the Bible says. I ignore what you think the Bible says. You emphasize a message and not a messenger. I see the two as one. Jesus was and is the Word eternal. You dont get to have a secular humanist socialist world where humanism reigns and God and His Son dont actually exist. I may even give as much spare change away as you do...though I could do better. As far as the apologists go, count me as one. Show me my lies.

At best, you will showcase my flesh warring against the Spirit. You wont catch me lying about anything. You might catch me ignoring some things occasionally, however.

Edited by Phat, : No reason given.


"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
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“We must realize that the Reformation world view leads in the direction of government freedom. But the humanist world view with inevitable certainty leads in the direction of statism. This is so because humanists, having no god, must put something at the center, and it is inevitably society, government, or the state.”- Francis A. Schaeffer

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killosophy


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Hyroglyphx
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Message 4185 of 4246 (880042)
07-28-2020 10:29 AM
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07-27-2020 3:15 PM


Re: What Makes Christians Ignorant?
Im not a huge fan of trump, though most of my Christian friends who like him list two main reasons, and dont mention the obvious third reason.
1) He supports Israel

Because he knows that's what his voting base wants.

2) He is against abortion.

Because he knows that's what his voting base wants.... although Donny was pro-abortion for decades... not to mention a Democrat... not to mention has never been and still is not a Christian by any respectable definition.

3) Their small businesses did a lot better.

Until he completely botched Covid-19 and now every single small business has already gone under or is facing Chapter 11.

But perhaps you can again tell us what specifically makes a Christian ignorant.

Any self-avowed Christian who supports Donald Trump worships Caesar and the almighty mammon, not Jesus or anything he stood for.

Phat, your own bible distinguishes between false prophets and true God-fearing people. It even distinguishes between different Christian churches, particularly in the last days, when it delineates between the 7 Churches of Asia Minor. Note how many of those churches were upright and how many were found to be in error. Hint: the majority were preaching false doctrine.

Someone saying they are "Christian" should mean almost nothing to you. I am truly astonished by the sheer number of "Christians" who support Donald Duck. These are the same people who, with a straight face, will tell you about the wiles of the Anti-Christ and how he's going to trick the masses, but they themselves can't see the irony of following Donald Trump.

Donald Trump, a man who has had a silver spoon lodged firmly up his ass for his entire life; a man who has NEVER known what it is to suffer, what it is to live paycheck to paycheck, a man who cannot relate to Middle America, somehow duped all of middle America into thinking he gives a shit about them.

I stand corrected. I guess miracles do happen.

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"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

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