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PaulK
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Message 4261 of 4573 (880624)
08-08-2020 10:42 AM
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08-08-2020 9:41 AM


Re: US Federal Brownshirts
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Then it would be an illegal detention as it violates the Due Process clause
Well, that’s what I said,
quote:
You said people are allowed to resist police officers presumably because if they feel like they did nothing wrong they are allowed to resist.
I said that they could point out that the arrest was illegal. If you classify that as resisting arrest my point stands. If you don’t then I didn’t say anything more.
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For saying things? We're talking about resisting arrest.... that's physical. What are you talking about?
I was talking about saying things. You decided that meant resisting arrest.

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Message 4262 of 4573 (880625)
08-08-2020 10:42 AM
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08-08-2020 10:07 AM


Re: Catholics should stick together
Nice bait. Melanias a good catholic. Joe is on the road to eternal damnation.

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ringo
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Message 4263 of 4573 (880626)
08-08-2020 12:11 PM
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08-08-2020 10:39 AM


proudly roman catholic writes:
Hes not a catholic.
As long as he's accepted by the Catholic Church, he's a Catholic. You do not get a say.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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Message 4264 of 4573 (880631)
08-08-2020 2:25 PM
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08-08-2020 12:11 PM


if you support anticatholic policies you're not catholic. The church accepts everyone. That doesn't make everyone catholic.

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jar
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Message 4265 of 4573 (880636)
08-08-2020 4:55 PM
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08-08-2020 2:25 PM


Being a member of a club makes one a member of that club.
You and all the other nutters might not like reality yet reality always triumphs over fantasy.
Joe Biden is a Roman Catholic and Roman Catholicism is not "catholic".

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ringo
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Message 4266 of 4573 (880647)
08-08-2020 9:49 PM
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08-08-2020 2:25 PM


proudly roman catholic writes:
if you support anticatholic policies you're not catholic.
There you go. It's the Catholic Church that decides what policies are anticatholic, not you.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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Message 4267 of 4573 (880984)
08-15-2020 7:34 PM


"Those who fail to learn the lessons of science fiction, ..."
Just now on Doctor Who (late Fourth Doctor episode, State of Decay) the Doctor and Romana encounter a highly dysfunctional society. She describes it as a "sociopathic abscess". Sounds like a fitting diagnostic for the current administration.
 
From The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy we have the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal (my emphasis added):
quote:
A towel, it says, is about the most massively useful thing an interstellar hitchhiker can have. Partly it has great practical value. You can ... wrap it round your head to ward off noxious fumes or avoid the gaze of the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal (such a mind-bogglingly stupid animal, it assumes that if you can't see it, it can't see you daft as a brush, but very very ravenous); ...
Similarly, Trump repeatedly and continually demonstrates that he is so mind-bogglingly stupid that he thinks that the only COVID infections that actually exist are the ones we find through testing, therefore if we stop testing then there will be no new infections.
Though we should probably be thankful that he is such a "f&*king moron (Rex Tillerson, Trump’s former Secretary of State, coming out of that very first cabinet meeting). If Trump weren't so utterly stupid and incompetent, he would have completed the destruction of America within the first or second year.
Maybe the movie, Idiocracy, should get dishonorable mention here.
 
And of course, there is also a multitude of pandemic stories in both film and print that have laid out our situation over and over again. Except that in those scenarios they at least had some adult leadership in place.

"Those who do not learn the lessons of science fiction are condemned to live them."
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Message 4268 of 4573 (881159)
08-18-2020 6:45 PM
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08-15-2020 7:34 PM


Re: "Those who fail to learn the lessons of science fiction, ..."
dwise1 writes:
Though we should probably be thankful that he is such a "f&*king moron (Rex Tillerson, Trump’s former Secretary of State, coming out of that very first cabinet meeting). If Trump weren't so utterly stupid and incompetent, he would have completed the destruction of America within the first or second year.
It's really sad when Americans fondly remember George W. Bush levels of stupid.

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Message 4269 of 4573 (881165)
08-18-2020 8:22 PM
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08-18-2020 6:45 PM


Re: "Those who fail"
In a certain way we should be thankful that Trump fucked up handling the Corona virus. If he had been proactive & by any measure successful, his re-election would be guaranteed. This way there's an opening for sanity to prevail.

"I'd rather be an American than a Trump Supporter."
- xongsmith, 5.7d

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jar
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Message 4270 of 4573 (881170)
08-18-2020 9:44 PM
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08-18-2020 8:22 PM


Re: "Those who fail"
And we stand at 124 Covid-19 deaths per 100,000 population.
All Quiet on the Governor Front!

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PaulK
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Message 4271 of 4573 (881239)
08-20-2020 12:51 PM


Bannon arrested for fraud
BBC
Apparently the We Build the Wall campaign was lining the pockets of the organisers, including Bannon. Trump employs the BEST people.

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vimesey
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Message 4272 of 4573 (881240)
08-20-2020 1:17 PM
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08-20-2020 12:51 PM


Re: Bannon arrested for fraud
Might be interesting to see what Bannon has on Trump, that he could bargain with.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 4273 of 4573 (881242)
08-20-2020 2:14 PM
Reply to: Message 4271 by PaulK
08-20-2020 12:51 PM


Re: Bannon arrested for fraud
Apparently the We Build the Wall campaign was lining the pockets of the organisers, including Bannon. Trump employs the BEST people.
Trump surrounding himself with scumbags, say it ain't so! What a stupid idea to begin with -- trying to get privateers to buy into a fake wall.
This has to be one of his dumbest ideas ever and a campaign promise that he predictably still hasn't delivered on.
I guess Trump has never heard of airplanes... or ladders.... or shovels... or explosives. Fly over it, climb over it, blow a hole through it, or tunnel underneath it. It would have been just as effective to build a giant hole in the Sonoran desert, throw billions of dollars in it, and set it on fire. That's more or less going to accomplish the same thing.
Edited by Hyroglyphx, : No reason given.

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Diomedes
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Message 4274 of 4573 (881246)
08-20-2020 3:13 PM
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08-20-2020 2:14 PM


Re: Bannon arrested for fraud
I guess Trump has never heard of airplanes... or ladders.... or shovels... or explosives. Fly over it, climb over it, blow a hole through it, or tunnel underneath it.
You can go one further: a large portion of the border between Mexico and Texas is the Rio Grande river. Was he planning on building a wall in the center of it? Or maybe his plan is to use Gators:

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Message 4275 of 4573 (881248)
08-20-2020 3:25 PM
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08-20-2020 3:13 PM


Re: Bannon arrested for fraud
It's actually worse then that. While the official border goes down the center of the Rio Grande, Trump's plan is to build the wall on the US side of the river, effectively ceding several square miles of US territory to Mexico. (I suspect he would also like to cede California back to Mexico.)

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