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Percy
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Message 4336 of 4374 (882648)
10-03-2020 7:46 AM
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10-02-2020 8:33 PM


Re: Re: I'm Only Human
I like the concluding sentence of this editorial. Apparently it's from a bumper sticker, but I hadn't seen it before:

quote:
Their karma has finally run over their dogma.

--Percy


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Message 4337 of 4374 (882649)
10-03-2020 8:19 AM
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10-03-2020 7:46 AM


Re: Re: I'm Only Human
Cryptically for them, that is true. Reality does not prefer one political party over another. And I'm with jar in that I will pray for POTUS while he remains with us, in office or out. I smell a rat, though. How is it that #POTUS and #FLOTUS both catch Covid19 and have such mild symptoms (as reported earlier) and suddenly he is taken to the hospital? Everyone I have known who caught COVID has recovered, but they report that it was like the absolute worst case of the Flu that they had ever had. It knocked them flat for one week and an additional week to recover enough to emerge from quarantine...and even after the 14 day window, it took yet another week to resume somewhat normal activities.

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Message 4338 of 4374 (882650)
10-03-2020 8:26 AM
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10-03-2020 8:19 AM


Re: Re: I'm Only Human
Il Donaldo has medical care you cannot even imagine; for life.

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Message 4339 of 4374 (882651)
10-03-2020 11:26 AM
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10-03-2020 8:19 AM


Re: Re: I'm Only Human
I smell a rat, though. How is it that #POTUS and #FLOTUS both catch Covid19 and have such mild symptoms (as reported earlier) and suddenly he is taken to the hospital?

cause they were lying up until the point where they couldn't lie anymore. I suspect the decision was made "ok lets get him to the hospital while he can still walk to the helicopter", nobody wants to see him taken out of the white house in a wheelchair or on a gurney. I would expect this kind of managing the optics of any president not just trump.

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Message 4340 of 4374 (882652)
10-03-2020 11:53 AM
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10-03-2020 11:26 AM


Re: Re: I'm Only Human
The truly amazing thing though is that the twit has not twitted in over 24 hours.

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Message 4341 of 4374 (882654)
10-03-2020 12:43 PM
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10-03-2020 11:26 AM


Re: Re: I'm Only Human
You’re right not to trust the White House.

According to the latest information, Trump was diagnosed 36 hours before the Friday announcement. Instead of quarantining he carried on as normal - without a mask - until the symptoms showed up. I don’t know how it will play, but over here that would be a major scandal.

It looks as if they had to give him oxygen, too since his doctor refused to answer the question.

BBC

Speaking to reporters, Dr Conley refused to say whether the president had ever been on oxygen despite being repeatedly questioned. He also said the team were "72 hours" into the positive diagnosis, which - if confirmed - would suggest the president attended an event on Thursday night knowing he was infected.

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Message 4342 of 4374 (882655)
10-03-2020 12:46 PM
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10-03-2020 7:46 AM


Re: Re: I'm Only Human
That bumper sticker has been around for decades. As I remember it: "Sorry, my karma just ran over your dogma."

Bumper stickers don't seem that popular or common anymore. My guess is that car bumpers now make it much harder to remove a bumper sticker. But probably a larger factor is that in this atmosphere of polarization a bumper sticker might be seen as an invitation for someone to vandalize your car. Even about a decade ago, I was hearing from people who had put a "Darwin fish" on their car and they would get vandalized.


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Message 4343 of 4374 (882656)
10-03-2020 1:41 PM
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10-03-2020 12:43 PM


Re: Re: I'm Only Human
And more confusion. It appears that - as usual the White House is confused about the message they want to put out. Telling the truth would be easier.

Trump was given oxygen at the White House on Friday before being taken to hospital.

Also from the BBC live reports:

And then, just minutes after the press conference concluded, an official struck a very different tone, telling the gathered press “the president’s vitals over the last 24 hours were very concerning and the next 48 hours will be critical in terms of his care”.

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Message 4344 of 4374 (882674)
10-04-2020 12:31 PM
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10-03-2020 1:41 PM


Re: Re: I'm Only Human
And more confused messaging.

Trump has been given a steroid, which reduces the effects cause by the immune system getting out of control. It’s only given to quite severe cases because suppressing immune responses isn’t something you want to do without a real need. So he definitely has a severe case and one that may have been fatal before the steroid treatment was discovered.

But the doctors are also taking about Trump returning to the White House tomorrow. There are good medical facilities there, but it isn’t a hospital. Maybe they think the severe episode will pass by then.


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Message 4345 of 4374 (882675)
10-04-2020 1:55 PM
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10-04-2020 12:31 PM


Re: Re: I'm Only Human
... plus he's contagious until at least 5 days after symptoms have gone. He's a real giver isn't he.

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Message 4346 of 4374 (882681)
10-04-2020 3:51 PM
Reply to: Message 4336 by Percy
10-03-2020 7:46 AM


Taking Care Of Business
My friend Steve from Portugal sent me an entertaining yet sobering article from European media, I think.
Trump’s GOP Can’t Even Take Care of Itself. How Can it Take Care of America?

Here is a better link to the author:
umair haque – Eudaimonia and Co

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- Criss Jami, Killosophy


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Tangle
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Message 4347 of 4374 (882684)
10-05-2020 3:07 AM


I see Trump now claims to understand Corona virus. He 'gets' it. If he only gets things that he's got, maybe he'll now get free health care?

Perhaps he should black-up?

Not that it's all about him of course.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

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Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
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Message 4348 of 4374 (882685)
10-05-2020 3:18 AM


Parscale the embezzler?
I’ve seen a report that Brad Parscale, former campaign manager, embezzled millions of dollars from the Trump campaign.

There’s no reliable source for this, but even so I wonder what would happen if it got to Trump? Trump views the campaign funds as his money and he wouldn’t be at all happy about being robbed.

At the least there is some evidence of shady goings on, with opaque accounts and Parscale funnelling money into his own companies.

Trump getting COVID might be a lucky escape for Parscale (who is currently confined after a breakdown).


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Message 4349 of 4374 (882687)
10-05-2020 12:54 PM
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10-05-2020 3:18 AM


Re: Parscale the embezzler?
Too many crooks despoil the funds.

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Message 4350 of 4374 (882688)
10-05-2020 1:35 PM
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10-05-2020 3:07 AM


I see Trump now claims to understand Corona virus. He 'gets' it.

Correction. He got it, but he still doesn't get it.

If he only gets things that he's got, maybe he'll now get free health care?

He will never get that. For Trump, there's a huge distinction between him getting something free and anybody else getting something free.

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