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Far left ideologues haven't stormed Capital Hill as part of an overt insurrection. Big difference.

The fact you think it is a crime to not be Christian is pretty scary.

This moral relativism is pathetic. Elected Democrats have not stirred up an insurrection. Republicans did. There is no comparison.

But only one side backs up their assertions with facts, evidence and reasoned argument.

It is true that there is no evidence of systematic electoral fraud. There have been recounts and audits and they have found nothing.

It is a fact that most of the lawsuits that have been thrown out weren’t about fraud. They were attempts to steal the election by throwing out votes. That the vast majority of those votes were cast in good faith according to the rules laid out at the time, by people fully entitled to vote did not matter to those filing the lawsuits. They were just cynical attempts to manipulate the system.

It is a fact that Pence did not have the authority to reject the ballots sent by the States - let alone accept ballots from pretenders.

So were the people who stormed the Capitol in an attempt to reject the election results doing something good? No. At best they were like the guy who took a rifle to a pizza parlour to “rescue” imaginary children from an imaginary basement. What they did was bad, and they are at the least culpable for not ascertaining the facts before taking such drastic action.

It doesn’t mean they aren’t evil. Let’s see you “both sides” that one.

That's not it at all. Democrats are not stirring up an insurrection. Joe Biden didn't call a gathering of the most violent left wing activists and tell them to march on a police building that was then lit on fire. No Democratic elected official did anything close to that.

Secondly, police abuse and racial inequalities within the justice system are a real thing, not a made up conspiracy theory about voter fraud. People peacefully protesting for equal treatment under the law is exactly what Americans should be doing. How is that immoral?

Edited by DrJones*, : No reason given.

The democratic equivalent of being dragged out of a drainage pipe.

Do you not have a public order offence like our incitement to riot?

Also, Giuliani and the Baby Turd are in line for any such charges too.

But remember that the bigger and surer threat is that EVERY State and EVERY Nation where TRUMP INC has ever done business will be going over EVERY financial transaction EVER made buy TRUMP INC or any of his family.

Oh, and he has a $400,000,000.00 personally guaranteed loan payment coming due and NO US bank will lend him a dime.

The political division will continue as long as people like you sympathize with the extremists.

We knew then that Trump would not be able to handle a disaster like the pandemic, and we marked a milestone yesterday by passing 4000 coronavirus deaths in a single day. But we didn't know then his sheer mendacity as demonstrated by his Ukraine phone call attempting to coerce their prime minister into helping him out with the 2020 electio. We also didn't know then the sheer number of Trump supporters and enablers in positions of power ranging from industry to government itself who would make possible, and who unbelievably continue to make possible, heartrending anti-democratic acts like the insurrection at the capitol building on Wednesday.

It seems very unlikely that Trump can be removed from office in the very few number of days left to him, and so we are left to hope that he causes no more damage in the next 12 days. But he has been shameless, unrepentant and unpredictable throughout his term, and he remains even more so as a wounded beast with the maturity of a child and the capacity for mayhem of the most powerful person in the world.

How do we prevent such men from capturing the public's hopes and dreams and then destroying the nation once in power. I don't think we can. This is perhaps why no nation lasts forever. Turkey seemed to be moving toward democracy but is now moving toward a dictatorship more like Russia. Russia under Boris Yeltsin seemed to be securing Russia's place in the world as a democracy, but Putin turned it into a dictatorship. A demagogue less obvious and transparent than Trump might one day succeed in overturning democracy in America. It seems possible.

Can we prevent appealing and tantalizing lies from taking over the minds of otherwise sane and patriotic Americans while maintaining our constitutional traditions of freedom of speech? Twitter and Facebook and other social media are culpable in spreading the lies, as are news outlets like Fox News and OneAmerica. I tuned in briefly Wednesday night for a few minutes each to Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity and despite the events of the day they hadn't changed their tune one bit. When asked by an interviewee about her reaction to Trump's inciting of the crowd that later invaded the capitol building a Fox News anchor denied that he did so. I don't know how we stop such insanity, and how can we keep our country while a significant proportion of Americans believe dangerous and untrue fantasies and conspiracy theories. I don't know.

--Percy

Edited by Percy, : Clarification.