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PaulK
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Message 4546 of 4573 (883832)
01-14-2021 2:15 AM
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01-14-2021 1:31 AM


Re: Four Years Later Here We Are
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I can't see it happening. Surely these patriot zealots are a definite minority. Time will tell, however. And what do they have to be mad about? Its not as if Trump did much for their socioeconomic group.

Because they are violent racists. Neo-Nazis, Neo-Confederates and other White Supremacists. The biggest terrorist threat in the US today.

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Message 4547 of 4573 (883833)
01-14-2021 2:33 AM


The impeachment of Bill Clinton now looks like it was carried out in an age of innocence.

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Message 4548 of 4573 (883834)
01-14-2021 7:01 AM
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01-14-2021 2:33 AM


Consensual sex vs incitement to insurrection.

Is one of those a threat and the other nobody's business beyond those immediately involved?

Edited by jar, : appalin spallin


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PaulK
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Message 4549 of 4573 (883835)
01-14-2021 8:07 AM


Trump being Trump
It appears that Trump is going to stiff Giuliano on his fees. Who could have seen that coming?

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Message 4550 of 4573 (883836)
01-14-2021 8:16 AM
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01-14-2021 8:07 AM


Re: Trump being Trump
And he might end up being disbarred.

Maybe he can get a new job as a hair dye salesman.


Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Message 4551 of 4573 (883837)
01-14-2021 11:14 AM


Faux News major objection today is the use of gender pronouns by the democrats.

We have just had a president attempt a coup using his radical alt-reich fascist militia and Faux News is slinging insults to democrats for gender pronouns.

Faux News is a seditionist alt-reich mouthpiece. Their conspiracy to lie Trump into a second term at the expense of our democracy should elicit a backlash against the network but the advertisers and supporters are not American enough to be incensed by these actions. They, as well, support the sedition.

Question whether we can hold our democracy under such relentless deep domestic fascist attacks.

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Message 4552 of 4573 (883843)
01-15-2021 2:50 AM


The horned loon that invaded the Capitol is rumoured to be pleading not guilty as he was 'only followng orders', those of his commanding officer, President Trump.

Curious and interesting defense from many angles. Not least because it fingers his commaning officer. Really hope it's true.


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Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
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PaulK
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Message 4553 of 4573 (883844)
01-15-2021 3:34 AM
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01-15-2021 2:50 AM


Trump avoided giving explicit instructions , so it’s going to be argued. But it is more evidence for incitement.

For me the killer argument is how else were they going to win? Pence wasn’t going along with the craziness, the House wouldn’t pass any objections - and with McConnell opposing it wasn’t even clear that the objections would win in the Senate.

Even if they’d sent a load of death threats to Republican Congressmen it’s hard to see how a demonstration outside the Capitol would have made a difference. Pence was following his Constitutional role and the objections were going to fail.

Trump told them to go out and be strong and they could reverse the election. A demonstration wouldn’t do that and I’m sure they knew that much.


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Message 4554 of 4573 (883867)
01-16-2021 9:23 AM


Trumps biggest lies
Sorting out the most significant lies of Trump’s term of office is a big task - there are so many. But the attempt has been made.

CNN


  
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Message 4555 of 4573 (883878)
01-16-2021 2:11 PM
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01-15-2021 3:34 AM


That's why they carried guns and twist ties. But they were just a bit late. Pence, Pelosi, McConnell were all dragged from their chambers to saferooms just before the mobs entered.

This thing would (not could) have been a lot bloodier if the mob had managed to capture the congressional leadership as they planned.

Trump's coup failed because the mobsters were somewhat more incompetent than the capitol police.


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Message 4556 of 4573 (883940)
01-19-2021 8:49 AM


Thread Ending Soon
This thread will be put into summation mode at 12:00 noon on Wednesday, January 20, 2021. Members can post a single concluding and/or summarizing message to a thread in summation mode.

At the same time a new thread, already created but currently closed, will be opened called The Trump Post-Presidency.


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Message 4557 of 4573 (883941)
01-19-2021 8:58 AM


In summary? Best forgotten.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


  
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Message 4558 of 4573 (883942)
01-19-2021 9:27 AM


Closest Brush with Fascism in the US yet
I wish I could say we escaped from the threat of Fascism but as long as the Christian Cult of ********* remains in the US we will never be free from that threat.

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PaulK
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Message 4559 of 4573 (883943)
01-19-2021 9:50 AM


The Nightmare is not Over
Trump’s presidency started poorly and ended even worse. From the mishandling of the pandemic to his attempts to destroy democracy and sabotage his successor. And he could run again in 2024 and maybe even when if the Republican vote suppression machine pulls out all the stops.

The Republican Party needs to clean house now. It already resembles the Augean Stables and if it is allowed to fester it will get worse. End the sham calls for “unity”, vote to convict Trump and disqualify him from office - and the same for those who openly supported the insurrection. If the Republican Party has any care for the nation they’ll do it.


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Message 4560 of 4573 (883944)
01-19-2021 9:55 AM
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01-19-2021 9:50 AM


Re: The Nightmare is not Over
The goal now is to capture at least 140 Republican House Seats, at least half of the 20 Republican Senate Seats up for reelection and at least three Republican Governorships in 2022 as well as as many State Legislature seats as possible.

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