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Author Topic:   Atheism Cannot Rationally Explain Morals.
Tanypteryx
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Message 656 of 1006 (805412)
04-18-2017 12:24 PM
Reply to: Message 644 by Dredge
04-17-2017 8:53 PM


Nonsense. Read the conclusions atheist William Provine came to, based on his belief in ToE. It shaped his entire approach to life. Provine also said "Evolution is the greatest engine for atheism ever invented."
I don't know who this guy is and I'm not interested enough to look him up, but I think he is completely wrong. In my own personal case, "Christianity was the greatest engine for atheism ever invented", but looking back I would probably modify that to be "religion is the greatest force for atheism ever invented."
Dredge in msg 645 writes:
Some atheists study ToE like some Christians study the Bible, which is pretty damned strange when you consider that ToE that has no practical use - however, it all makes sense when you realise that ToE serves as the basis for an atheist's quasi-religious worldview. So creationists aren't the only ones obsessed with ToE.
What total BS, but it all makes (a sort of warped) sense when you realize that Christianity has no practical use. You are just spouting nonsense about Christianity, creationism, atheism, and evolution when you have no clue about any of them.
Ignorance can be cured with education, but stupidity can only be cured by natural selection.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Tanypteryx
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Message 789 of 1006 (806776)
04-27-2017 8:08 PM
Reply to: Message 786 by Coyote
04-27-2017 12:24 PM


Re: Evolutionists can not explain morals
So, even though these individuals may no longer be reproducing they increase the chances for other members of the group to survive to do so.
We also see a similar behavior in other species where individuals spend time protecting and nurturing the next generation of siblings. Scrub Jays often hang around and help raise the next generation or two of siblings. This behavior is preserved in the species because the older siblings will sometimes inherit their parent's territory and raise their own broods. Jays are smart birds and they benefit from the time spent hanging around learning useful parenting skills.
Some jays strike out on their own and establish new territories. I am not sure if there have been studies measuring if the two groups have different levels of long-term success (reproductive longevity and success), but it seems like an obvious study.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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