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Author Topic:   Atheism Cannot Rationally Explain Morals.
Coyote
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Message 21 of 1006 (798504)
02-02-2017 10:54 PM


Religion Cannot Rationally Explain Morals
Atheism Religion Cannot Rationally Explain Morals
There are some 20,000 world religions, and some 40,000 sects, branches, denominations and flavors of christianity alone. There is nowhere close to an agreement on any given set of morals among those religions.
Sorry to have to burst your bubble.
(Or, are you figuring that it is your own religion that is the only one that counts?)

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

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Message 786 of 1006 (806755)
04-27-2017 12:24 PM
Reply to: Message 785 by ringo
04-27-2017 12:16 PM


Re: Evolutionists can not explain morals
Any behaviour that advances the survival of other individuals in our species advances the survival of the species as a whole.
Correct.
And this is where grandparents and elders--past the reproduction age--can benefit their groups. Grandparents care for the young while parents are out hunting and gathering, and are often the most skilled at making baskets, stone tools, and a lot of other needed items. Elders carry and pass on the knowledge of the group.
So, even though these individuals may no longer be reproducing they increase the chances for other members of the group to survive to do so.
And this is all explained by anthropology and related fields of science.
And I might add this is more important than passing down old folk tales about talking snakes and floods that didn't happen.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.

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Message 822 of 1006 (807013)
04-30-2017 10:39 AM
Reply to: Message 821 by Davidjay
04-30-2017 9:44 AM


Re: Atheists/Evolutionists can not explain morality
Their theory states survivl of the fittest, but thats where their brains disconnect, not wanting to admit the destructive effects of the so called fittest, most aggressive races or breeds or mutated humans killing and making extinct other branches of humanity.
You have a very warped view of evolution, most likely from being steeped in decades of religious nonsense, along with a good measure of self-delusion.
You have seen posts showing that cooperation and altruism can be powerful forces for helping one's group prosper and pass on their traits to future generations. Grandparents past child-bearing age caring for the young is a prime example. Tribal elders holding and passing on the knowledge of the tribe is another.
Maybe you should study some anthropology, and leave that creationist nonsense alone for a while.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.

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Coyote
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Message 828 of 1006 (807106)
04-30-2017 10:59 PM
Reply to: Message 825 by Davidjay
04-30-2017 9:08 PM


Re: Atheists/Evolutionists can not explain morality
Evolution deals with the theory that all life branched out from original life forms to new life forms. Its a branching out, that three of you state made us primates branch out from BATS. Astounshingly three of you have stated this, and expect people to accept it because you stated it....
Bats are our ancestors, read it for yourselfs READERS..
That is a flat-out lie. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.

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