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Author Topic:   Atheism Cannot Rationally Explain Morals.
frako
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Message 7 of 1006 (798464)
02-02-2017 6:12 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Dawn Bertot
02-02-2017 3:56 PM


Well then why do god fearing countries on average have higher crime rates?
If you find sexuality immoral then why do god fearing places have higher teen pregnancy rates, and STD rates?
If divorce is immoral then why do atheists have the lowest divorce rates?
The lion and Bear do not share your opinion,when they are on the giving end of misery.
And yet social animals are known to show altruism.
Thirdly, since I can get very different responses from human minds as to what constitutes a moral or immoral act, it should be immediately evident that there is no way to establish OBJECTIVELY, from a Naturalistic standpoint, what is in REALITY morally real.
when you boil it down its simple any act against the community is immoral and acts for the good of the community are moral. Or at least that is what evolution selected for. Immoral communities with selfish members that acted only in their own interests died out, while communities where everyone pulled together flourished. ITs religion that has perverted this instinct and supplemented it with their flawed morality.
Edited by frako, : No reason given.

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.

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frako
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Message 59 of 1006 (798592)
02-03-2017 4:02 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Dawn Bertot
02-02-2017 10:04 PM


If this is the case as you state can I ask you a question
I noticed in this MONKEY video, they are in cages. Did they do something wrong? Did they commit a crime to be incarcerated, probably against thier will?
Really well monkeys are not part of our community as fellow humans are, i have no problem with experiments on animals as long as they are not unnecessarily inhumane. Fact is the only way we can learn is to experiment if a few monkeys haveto suffer a bit to save potentionaly an endless ammount of human lives down the line tough luck.
Your moral has to be consistent across all species, not just humans.
So your saying only the Pranist's have it right. The guys in india that walk around naked with a peacock feather that they use to sweep the floor so they dont accedentaly step on any bugs.
If you think your biblical god's morality sprads accross all species alike you must have not read the bible.
Why would morality haveto be consistant across all species?

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.

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