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Author Topic:   A very brief history of Human Life
ringo
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Message 29 of 59 (798781)
02-05-2017 1:54 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by Faith
02-05-2017 3:45 AM


Re: It's a human being at every stage of life
Faith writes:

There is no moral contradiction in saving the life of an innocent unborn while approving of legally prescribed death for a criminal.


Then you're in favour of executing women who have abortions?

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ringo
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Message 31 of 59 (798783)
02-05-2017 2:03 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by Faith
02-05-2017 1:56 PM


Re: It's a human being at every stage of life
Faith writes:

No.


Why not? If abortion is murder and it's okay to execute murderers then how is it not okay to execute somebody who commits murder?

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ringo
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Message 33 of 59 (798792)
02-05-2017 2:34 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by Faith
02-05-2017 2:30 PM


Re: It's a human being at every stage of life
Faith writes:

Stop playing demented word games.


There are no word games involved. If abortion is murder and it's okay to execute murderers, how is it not oaky to execute a murderer?

Your position seems to be self-contradictory. Kindly explain more clearly.


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ringo
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Message 35 of 59 (798800)
02-05-2017 2:50 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by Faith
02-05-2017 2:42 PM


Re: It's a human being at every stage of life
Faith writes:

Stop projecting stuff on me.


I'm not projecting anything on you. I asked a simple question. If you'd reply properly in the first place instead of being so combative I wouldn't have to use a crowbar to pry an honest answer out of you.

Faith writes:

I'm not stuck on the word "murder," I mean KILLING A HUMAN BEING in a formative stage, and murder is the usual term for ending a human life; and I clearly said in a recent post that I put the mother's life above the child's. I'm also not stuck on "human being" I've said many times I'm talking about the inevitability of its becoming a human being so that if you kiil it you are ending a human life.


Thanks. We're actually on the same page about abortion but it might help if you used words correctly instead of right-wing rhetoric.

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Message 47 of 59 (798906)
02-06-2017 12:12 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by Faith
02-06-2017 9:07 AM


Re: when does personhood begin revisited
Faith writes:

There may be an early stage of purely physical formation before the soul is infused by God. Nobody knows that.


The Levites had an app for that:
quote:
Exodus 21:20-22 And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money. If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.

"In God's eyes" the unborn child seems to be treated as the father's property.

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