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Author Topic:   A very brief history of Human Life
Theodoric
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Message 6 of 59 (798657)
02-04-2017 11:17 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by Faith
02-04-2017 10:24 AM


Re: It's a human being at every stage of life
Using your argument every sperm and egg is a human life. Every miscarriage should be followed by an investigation.

Do you think taking a person off of life support is murder?


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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Message 8 of 59 (798667)
02-04-2017 1:14 PM
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02-04-2017 12:36 PM


Re: It's a human being at every stage of life
Even you wouldn't be in favor of removing life support in many cases.

You have no idea what I would or would not favor. If the person on life support wanted off or if they left Instructions not to be on life support than life support should be removed.
The only thing that enters into the equation is the wishes of the person and their family.

Not a strawman. A natural extension of your argument and its consequences. If a blastocyst is life, shouldn't their be an investigation every time that life ends. Shouldn't someone be held accountable.

If a blastocyst is independent life, how does it follow an egg and sperm are not? A blastocyst is a potential toddler as is every egg and sperm.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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Theodoric
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Message 13 of 59 (798680)
02-04-2017 3:17 PM
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02-04-2017 3:06 PM


Re: It's a human being at every stage of life
But if a fertilized egg is human life with all the rights and privileges, we need to be able to accurately account for each and every one. We need to hold mothers accountable for any behavior that threatens the human life she is carrying.

This is Faith's argument taken to it's logical end.

Edited by Theodoric, : Spelling, punctuation


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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Theodoric
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Message 16 of 59 (798685)
02-04-2017 3:59 PM
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02-04-2017 3:52 PM


Re: It's a human being at every stage of life
That would be why it is a very difficult, emotional decision for most people.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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Theodoric
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Message 24 of 59 (798735)
02-05-2017 7:45 AM
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02-05-2017 6:19 AM


Re: It's a human being at every stage of life
But that is not what Faith and the forces birthers argue. That unimplanted zygote is as much a person as you and I.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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Theodoric
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Message 44 of 59 (798879)
02-06-2017 9:16 AM
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02-06-2017 9:07 AM


Re: when does personhood begin revisited
barring the effect of abnormal processes

All the processes that result in a spontaneous abortion are normal. It is normal for a woman's body to do this. It happens in about 1/5th of all pregnancies.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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