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http://data2.unhcr.org/en/situations/mediterranean

I already showed you: that video of a violent mob of right-wing Christians disrupting a peaceful gay pride event with rocks and bricks. That's evidence that Europe is getting crushed -- absolutely crushed -- by an internal invasion of radical right-wing Christians.

That's how you take decorations off a tree in a post-Christmas celebration: you pull things off.

Go to the Snopes article. See the first image there. You'll find at least one of the individuals in the crowd wearing a Christmas hat (Santa hat).

Then, if you still think your propaganda boys are right -- that this is happening in Europe, instead of Cairo -- I'm sure you'll be able to dig up the original video to prove this point. Right?

Just kidding.

You're not willing to put in that kind of work to determine if you're being fed propaganda.

I'm not interested in a hastily-put-together YouTube video that uses unsourced clips shown to be irrelevant (e.g., from Cairo). That's propaganda. If I used that kind of sloppy approach in academic research, people would be like "LOL you're not serious are you??"

If it's "perfectly obvious" you should be able to do better than linking to weird YouTube videos and clickbait headlines.

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Luckily, there's the Wayback Machine, which archives deleted or unindexed pages. See here:

https://web.archive.org/...cr.org/mediterranean/regional.php

Look at all the documents on demographic data, specifically related to gender break downs. This is from April 4, 2016, and prior to that date. None of them suggest that 75% of the refugees are male. Your friends at JihadWatch don't know how to research.

And the light bulb turns on.

Except that the kid linked to the UN. And if you look at the page he linked to, using the Wayback Machine, you'll see that this "75% are male" nonsense isn't validated by the demographic/gender breakdowns in the documents there.

Next up: Faith Argues that the Wayback Machine is a Cultural Marxist Conspiracy.

But that's not the case. The European press never shuts up about this stuff. They bang on and on and on, which is part of the problem.

There was something of a scandal here last year when it emerged that the editors of Prima TV; one of our major news stations; had instructed their news reporters and writers that they were required to report negatively about refugees, and to present them as a threat, if they wanted to keep their jobs (anyone watching Prima news would have already known that was the case, but someone took the time to leak a recording to prove it).

This is how Lubos Jetmar, the vice-president of one of our largest TV companies, explained the refugee crisis to his staff in a meeting in which they also explained they were required to stick to the editorial line in news reporting:

Your view that Muslim immigrants are an existential threat to Europe is not hidden by some vast conspiracy of the mainstream press. It's openly advocated by much of that press - this is why it's believed by so many people who've never even seen a Muslim immigrant.

ABE - the above quote is of course a translation - he didn't say it in English.

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If that message is so common in Europe how come I can't get anyone to agree there's a problem or that anyone in Europe even thinks there is a problem? How come so many national leaders in Europe deny there is a problem? That shows up in my videos along with all the pictures of Muslim violence.

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And given the number of problems with your videos that have come up, surely you ought to realise that they are not reliable. Which is a major reason why they are not convincing.

I can't speak for others, but I don't think anyone is denying that people in Europe think there is a problem. A lot of what you post comes from right-wing European sources, after all. If the reason you keep posting it is because you think everyone is denying that such sources exist then you're arguing past each other.

And nobody denies that there are problems, especially not national leaders. You've already posted several headlines about Orban, the nationalist prime minister of Hungary who is virulently anti-Muslim. Our President is of a similar, though less extreme, mindset (he's a big fan of Donald Trump). We just don't agree on what the problems are; nor where we do on how to solve them. I don't think there's a rape epidemic by refugees; but many do, because (in my opinion) of news sources like Prima who agree with your views about Muslims and select their stories and their focus on trying to spread that fear.

Isn't this exactly the sort of behaviour you were referring to as 'fake' earlier in the thread? Picking the facts you choose to mention and skewing the interpretations to fit a particular viewpoint? That's precisely what the horror stories about Muslims in the press that so many of your videos are based in are doing. Immediately prior to explaining why he thought Muslims are a problem in the previous quote I posted Jetmar reminded his staff:

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You are working in the newsroom of a television channel that is a rather influential, strong media outlet and we influence majority opinion in this country.

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You influence public opinion and it's your job to report in a way that makes people afraid of Muslims immigrants. Is that fake news, then?

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The Muslim Migrant Invasion and the Collapse of Europe

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Jihad Watch is not a source.

For example, that story about the rape of a 15-year-old on a student cruise in Sweden? It's fake. Well, technically it isn't fake, but you neglected to tell the entire story.

Specifically, the case was dismissed. Controversially, I should add, but it was dismissed.

How many times do you need to be burned by your "sources" before you realize that they are lying to you and you should stop referring to them?

And you still haven't answered my question, Faith:

What percentage of the European population (assume the European Union) is Muslim?

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I knew it would be denied. Since the MSM won't report this stuff

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Incorrect. It was reported on. That's why we know that your "source" is lying to you. Jihad Watch is not a source, Faith.

To go back to that cruise/rape example:

Teenagers walk free in Swedish ferry 'rape' case

That's from a Swedish news source, Faith.

Now, we know you don't actually do any homework on anything before you open your yap, but it would behoove you to actually do some digging before blindly accepting what someone who you have been directly shown to be a liar tells you.

How many times do you need to be burned before you learn?

And you still haven't answered my question, Faith:

What percentage of the European population (assume the European Union) is Muslim?