The Totalitarian Leftist Tactics against the Right

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Obama and his wife are never going to make it to the White House. He needs to be taken out and I can do it in a heartbeat

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I'll get a sniper rifle and take care of it myself. Somebody's got to do it ... We both know Obama is the anti-Christ.

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Jerry Blanchard, sentenced to one year and one day in prison for making the threats. He was also fined $3,000.

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No nigger should ever live in the White House

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Yeah, they were here to do that, to assassinate him

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shoot Obama from a high vantage point using a [rifle] sighted at 750 yards

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He don't belong in political office. Blacks don't belong in political office. He ought to be shot.

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sentenced for firearm and drug related offences.Add to this Paul Schlesselman and Daniel Cowart - neo nazis who plotted to kill 88 black people including Obama. sentenced to 10 and 14 years.

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Kill him!

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Various reports of this being yelled at Palin and McCain rallies in reference to Obama.James G Cummings, neo-nazi, who was building a dirty bomb was killed by his wife.Terence Edward Kelly, Khalid Kelly, Islamist,

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Personally I would feel happy if Obama was killed. How could I not feel happy when a big enemy of Islam is gone?

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Oscar Ramiro Ortega-Hernandez, believed Obama was the anti-christ and fired shots at the White House. sentence to 25 years.The FEAR militia, 4 men plotted a variety of terrorist activities including killing Obama, and murdered two people to try to prevent discovery. 20 years to life.Glenn Scott Crawford and Eric J. Feight, affiliated with the KKK plotted to kill Muslims and Obama with an X-ray device emitting lethal levels of radiation.

So it's isolated loonies when they are right-wing, but evidence of a general pattern when they are left-wing? This is not true.

No, it isn't. You yourself have accused us of being abominations and demon possessed. It's the right that propose the laws that negatively impact LGBTQ community, that use anti-LGBTQ rhetoric in their speeches. Now that people who were assigned female at birth but who identify and look like men are forced to use the ladies - people assigned male at birth and who identify and look like men can use the ladies and claim to be the former group. So the 'problem' isn't solved either way.Also, being safe is more important than feeling safe. I've been sexually assaulted in men's bathrooms because I was wearing a dress. You can cause distress for the majority of the minority a majority of the time
Or a minority of the majority the minority of the time.Almost all the majority won't be in a bathroom with the minority most of the time. When they are, they usually won't even be aware.The minority are always aware when they are in a bathroom where they look out of place, and the majority are also aware. So when the minority comes into contact with the occasional violent member of the minority, they face a real and present danger. There are more violent members of the cisgender group than there are transgender people in total. The number of violent transgender people is therefore tiny. The number of sexually violent transgender people is a tiny tiny minority of a small minority. Or the attacks on secular trans-friendly businesses. I don't typically ask the religion of the owners of a business before attending. Unfortunately, this way of thinking means the majority can get away with oppressing the minorities and making their life considerably poorer and it costs lives. Trump has hardly engendered {pun intended} trust.

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I think the institution of marriage should be between a man and a woman

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I’m opposed to gay marriage

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I would strongly consider {appointing judges to overturn the the decision on same-sex marriage}

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If I am elected president and Congress passes the First Amendment Defense Act. I will sign it to protect the deeply held religious beliefs of Catholics and the beliefs of Americans of all faiths

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--Trump

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Resources should be directed toward those institutions which provide assistance to those seeking to change their sexual behavior

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Congress should oppose any effort to put gay and lesbian relationships on an equal legal status with heterosexual marriage

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Educate people to eliminate their unfounded fears.

Why? How do you know this? How is not about a fear of something happening but it is about anxiety? What's the anxiety? Why not? My solution worked when people felt 'naturally anxious' about sharing bathrooms with other races. I don't see why there is a need to use some other solution.

The sexes are different from one another, but so are the races. Fear and anxiety drove white people to want black people to use separate facilities. Education eventually mostly cured this anxiety.You didn't answer my questions. What's the problem with children using a bathroom with a transgender person? How do you know the anxiety is natural? How is it not about fear but it is about anxiety? Why can we not educate people away from these anxieties? Why come up with a solution different than one that has worked before? Boys, girls, men, women have for centuries shared bathroom and bathing facilities without anxieties or fears - I see no reason we are incapable of doing it again.Where should transgendered people go to the bathroom while you are complaining about solutions not being good enough?Edited by Modulous, : No reason given.

I don't know, why can't Leftists tell the difference between a socially determined attitude and a natural fact. Wait, that wasn't a setup to a joke?Faith, we can't come up with solutions that we're all happy are good and effective if we don't communicate. Please answer my questions, in understanding your perspective maybe we can accommodate your concerns. I can't do that if when I ask you to detail them you dismiss me because I'm a {political enemy}.

Seriously? Message 91

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homosexuality is still the only sexual sin singled out by the term abomination.

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I said, quite clearly I think, that AMONG the sexual sins ONLY homosexuality is specifically called an abomination.

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Message 83

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homosexuality is the only personal sin called an abomination.

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What about 'little boys' who would rather wet their pants than go to into a bathroom with boys? Are you wrong to force it on them?Edited by Modulous, : No reason given.

Unless you disagree with the Bible on this matter, my point that you call it an abomination stands. Just because you are adopting an opinion from another source doesn't mean it isn't your opinion. No change in bathroom use is being proposed. Transgender people have been using the bathroom of their assigned gender for decades. There are serious problems in play.Now I have given my answer. Can you answer my questions, please? We disagree on what the problems are, clearly. I'd like to understand the perspective of those that have the 'anxieties' you express. Is that it?That's what transgender people are doing, Faith. There comes a point during transitioning between appearances when the transgender person feels it is no longer appropriate to use the bathroom they used to use, so they switch. Transitioning is a years long process. I know that the media sometimes portrays it like with Caitlyn - 'suddenly' they are a woman. But it takes years of hormone treatment, voice and body language training and psychiatric consultation before most people feel comfortable going out in public and using the restroom of their gender identity. Being rich helps, but even that is often insufficient to skip past all the time.Obviously not everyone universally agrees when a person is able to 'pass' as the person of their new gender. This is a decision, I think, best left to the transgender person and their doctors.So let's talk about adults first. The 'bathroom bills' are at odds with your 'can get away' criteria. I don't try to pass, and I use the men's restroom - although sometimes this comes with its own dangers.The Public Facilities Privacy & Security Act passed in the U.S. state of North Carolina in March 2016, mandates that individuals may only use restrooms and changing facilities that correspond to the sex on their birth certificates. In North Carolina, this can be changed, but only after 'gender reassignment surgery'. It is easily possibly to pass without this surgery - and it's fairly monumental (not to mention, in a private medical system - expensive) surgery. So this is a problem. Other States, and other countries, have different rules - and transgender folks from those other jurisdictions may not be able to change the name on their birth certificate - even with the surgery. So this is a problem.Other laws have been similarly proposed. They are problems.As for schoolchildren? This little girl was being forced to use the little boys room. She (or her parents and lawyers) had to go to court. This is a problem. There are bills proposed, and passed in some States that would force her to use the little boys room if she lived there. Trump rolled back Federal Guidelines that state she should be able to use the little girls room, asserting that the States should decide. Meaning little girls like Coy Mathis may be allowed to use the little girls room in one State, but not another. Gavin Grimm, a teenaged boy, is having to go to the Supreme Court because he was being forced to use the girls room at school: "It's come down to way more than bathrooms, now. It's about treating everybody with dignity and respect and it's about equality; and its about it in a way I never understood. I think people need to understand that we all bleed the same kind of blood" - Gavin's mother."I can't speak for everybody, but there are things that need to be spoken about" - GavinYou might benefit from Jon Oliver's take on this. You probably loathe him for being a liberal or something, but please take heed of the issues that transgender people are actually fighting here. You can skip to 9 minutes in for the bathroom specific part.Edited by Modulous, : No reason given.

If you don't have an answer to them, why make statements such as 'it's a social situation no child should be forced to experience' and 'their anxiety about it is natural'. Do you find yourself regularly saying things without knowing why you are saying them or what you are basing it off? Here are the questions, summarised from Message 41What's the problem with children using a bathroom with a transgender person? How do you know the anxiety is natural? How is it not about fear but it is about anxiety? Why can we not educate people away from these anxieties? Why come up with a solution different than one that has worked before? Boys, girls, men, women have for centuries shared bathroom and bathing facilities without anxieties or fears - I see no reason we are incapable of doing it again.

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Where should transgendered people go to the bathroom while you are complaining about solutions not being good enough?I've thought about these issues for 30 years, Faith. There are no other problems. Your suspicions that there are other problems is based on nothing, except perhaps the fact that 'your side' insists that problems exist. Exactly - there isn't a need for special laws. It's the Republicans that are introducing them! If you agree they are unnecessary you are agreeing with the liberals. The only laws the liberals are proposing are laws that make the unnecessary and harmful laws unlawful to enact, to make these unnecessary and harmful policies in public businesses unlawful to enforce. The liberals only do this as a reaction to the Republicans make a big fuss out of nothing.So you see, as you get educated on this matter, you end up agreeing there is little to fear, little to be anxious about. That's why I think education is the solution. They are not doing this. Very few do. I strongly believe children should not have to deal with bullying, but it still happens. I strongly believe children should not have to deal with cancer, but it happens. I had to deal with these issues, but I had to do it alone. A child, trying to deal with these issues without support, guidance, without help. You don't want that do you? That's pretty much what happens right now, and is indeed the liberals position. We may differ on what 'strongly discouraged' means - but regardless doctors do essentially put children who are insistent 'to the test'. Many of the children that go through this, decide that sex change isn't what they want. There are years and years of counselling. Transgender children should, and mostly are, going through counselling sessions with specialists into adulthood, and then once they get there, if they still wish to proceed with things once they are there - there are yet more hurdles including years of counselling and psychiatry. Despite what many Conservatives have said, it is not 'one day I decide I'm a woman and voila!'.Of course many Republicans want to defund the medically accepted ways of treating and helping adults and children going through this traumatic and unpleasant experience. Are you beginning to see why people are upset with the Conservatives on this matter? 1) You don't give details so I can only say that she's a girl.
2) I only know of Mack Beggs {Fox News}, who is a boy but was born a girl and won the girl's competition. Mack Beggs was born as a girl, but yes - he has male muscle structure and hormones because as part of his treatment he takes testosterone and oestrogen blockers. So of course he has an advantage against girls. As he and all the liberals were saying. Conservative forces, however, insist that despite having male musculature on the back of male hormones he must wrestle girls.A transgender girl may take testosterone blockers and oestrogen. Which would give her a disadvantage against boys on the grounds she has female musculature and female hormones.Here is an Infowars article on it in case Fox News is too mainstream. That's what we liberals are saying! It's stupid to force a little girl to use the little boys room. It's stupid to force a strong teenage boy to wrestle teenage girls in competition. And yet this is what Conservative, right-wing rules are insisting should happen.I'm glad to see you turning around on this issue. Great. Sort of. It's still the right-wing that is proposing these laws. You should speak up against them along with us liberals rather than calling us loonie liberals. Yes, we liberals have been trying to explain this to right-wing Conservatives for years. You should ask them. There is a reasonable chance some of your elected representative are sponsoring or have even passed a bill on the claims there is a problem. Write to them. It really is as easy as that. It's taxpayers time and money being wasted on enacting these laws, and then defending them in court. There are women who were born women who have been challenged on their way into the bathroom because people think they might have been born a man. Imagine the humiliation of that happening to you!

No, its just a thousand times easier to talk about it, a lot safer to live it, and there are more resources available for parents, teachers and the transgendered to access. Education overcoming fear.

You can't have it both ways. You can't rely on innuendo that 'liberation' means 'Marxist' and thus violence while getting upset that when you call groups of black people 'thugs' people think you are being racist. Either 'clues' are good enough to condemn others and you, or neither.

One assumes he is referring to Coy Mathis.

Coy Mathis is a little girl who was 'forced' to use the little boys room. She is mentioned in Message 69

I think Faith is confused because when she wrote her Message 176 she wasn't thinking of transgender people who can pass, she was thinking of her problems with PC and the 'fine sounding moral preaching' that serves this 'evil'.The confusion was because it was a General Reply that followed immediately from Message 174 where Aussie was talking about this issue. Faith, however, was just talking about PC.Faith doesn't think that allowing transgender people that look like the gender they identify with use the bathroom where they visually 'fit in' is PC so in her mind she didn't make the connection. Not sure I'd be freaked out, incidentally'. Initially surprised, perhaps. This point however was meant to illustrate to Faith that the right-wing's insistence that little girls use the little boys room is an authoritarian tactic. She seems to have dropped that on the grounds that she is 'not interested in this problem right now. ' but that she has a suspicion the right-wing must have a good point somehow and 'there is more to this though, and that another shoe is going to drop on it soon. I don't know what, but it can't be this easy.'