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Author Topic:   Gay Marriage as an attack on Christianity
14174dm
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Message 112 of 1484 (802232)
03-13-2017 6:49 PM
Reply to: Message 91 by Faith
03-13-2017 5:04 AM


Re: God's marriage ordinance
Mark 10:12 And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.

Matthew 19:3-9 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause? And he answered and said unto them, Hath ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh. Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh? What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. They say unto him, Why did Moses then give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

How is the Christian baker to handle the re-marriage of a divorced person? Refuse to validate the ceremony by baking a cake until given proof of infidelity before the divorce?


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14174dm
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Message 306 of 1484 (802567)
03-17-2017 7:08 PM
Reply to: Message 288 by Faith
03-17-2017 12:53 PM


Re: The Gospel and Acts don't mention homosexual issues
Romans 2:1
You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.

Seems to me you are picking a favorite sin of others to judge.


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14174dm
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Message 307 of 1484 (802568)
03-17-2017 7:12 PM
Reply to: Message 290 by Faith
03-17-2017 1:05 PM


Re: Those who will not inherit the kingdom of God unless they repent
1Corinthians 6:9-11 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

So a Christian business has a tiny market. I find it difficult to believe that you can single out the covetous, the self-abusing, and the adulterers from your customers.


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14174dm
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Message 737 of 1484 (803379)
03-29-2017 2:32 PM
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03-29-2017 2:15 PM


Re: don't rock the boat
But no, the whole point was to kill marriage. Congratulations, you succeeded.

I don't follow that argument. How does allowing gays to marry in any way change the marriage of straights?

Are the straight forced to marry same-sex? Do the straight in any way lose rights?

I think that allowing divorce without proof of abuse or infidelity, allowing remarriage after divorce, and giving rights to straight but unmarried couples kill marriage by giving straights the options to avoid the "til death do us part" commitment.


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14174dm
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Message 748 of 1484 (803401)
03-29-2017 4:37 PM
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03-29-2017 2:46 PM


Re: don't rock the boat
It's the concept, the definition of marriage that is destroyed.

I still don't get it. I stood before the altar, in front of my family & friends (and hers) and promised to be with my wife til death do us part.

For almost 30 years I have been faithful, I have stayed with her, I have loved her through good & bad (admittedly not much bad compared to others).

Why? Because I am this marriage. Whether the couple next door is Adam & Eve or Adam & Steve does not affect how I am married.


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14174dm
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Message 768 of 1484 (803446)
03-30-2017 4:35 PM
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03-30-2017 3:53 PM


Re: don't rock the boat
...prayer in schools was not effectively challenged until Madalyn Murray...

Catholics started the parochial school system in the 1840s when Protestant officials forced Protestant prayers and practices on Catholic kids. Catholics complained but schools didn't change. I expect Jews were also unhappy.


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