Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 52 (9178 total)
4 online now:
Newest Member: Anig
Upcoming Birthdays: Theodoric
Post Volume: Total: 918,078 Year: 5,335/9,624 Month: 360/323 Week: 204/160 Day: 21/19 Hour: 1/0


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   Gay Marriage as an attack on Christianity
Dredge
Member
Posts: 2852
From: Australia
Joined: 09-06-2016


Message 865 of 1484 (803652)
04-03-2017 3:37 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Faith
03-12-2017 7:23 AM


The Great False God of Equality (Lucifer) has been building his anti-Christian civilization since the so-called Enlightenment. The religion of Equality gave birth to the evils of Communism and feminsim. Gay rights and same-sex marriage are other powerful weapons which this False God and his false religion have invented to oppose Christianity.
But God allows it to continue because it serves to separate the "sheep" from the "goats" - ie, to separate those who follow the light of Christ from those who follow the the darkness of the world. When Satan comes along speaking in the name of equality, who can oppose him?

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1 by Faith, posted 03-12-2017 7:23 AM Faith has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 866 by Faith, posted 04-03-2017 3:53 AM Dredge has replied
 Message 867 by vimesey, posted 04-03-2017 6:13 AM Dredge has replied
 Message 868 by jar, posted 04-03-2017 6:59 AM Dredge has replied
 Message 870 by vimesey, posted 04-03-2017 10:27 AM Dredge has replied
 Message 871 by Theodoric, posted 04-03-2017 10:37 AM Dredge has not replied
 Message 872 by ringo, posted 04-03-2017 11:45 AM Dredge has not replied

  
Dredge
Member
Posts: 2852
From: Australia
Joined: 09-06-2016


Message 907 of 1484 (803728)
04-04-2017 4:10 AM
Reply to: Message 867 by vimesey
04-03-2017 6:13 AM


Equality is possibly the most devious "wolf in sheep's clothing" ever conceived by the devil. Wouldn't mind a dollar for every person sucked in by this nice word.
Equality can be used for good, but sometimes it's an excuse for evil. Feminsim is another fine of example of the power of equality to "kill, steal and destroy".
Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.
Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 867 by vimesey, posted 04-03-2017 6:13 AM vimesey has not replied

  
Dredge
Member
Posts: 2852
From: Australia
Joined: 09-06-2016


Message 908 of 1484 (803729)
04-04-2017 4:23 AM
Reply to: Message 868 by jar
04-03-2017 6:59 AM


I've never read the Bible. I didn't know that.
I don't know anything about Jesus or his message. I didn't know that.
Btw, what is his message, in your opinion?
All the goats were his followers. I didn't know that and I wonder what you mean by this.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 868 by jar, posted 04-03-2017 6:59 AM jar has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 917 by jar, posted 04-04-2017 8:16 AM Dredge has not replied

  
Dredge
Member
Posts: 2852
From: Australia
Joined: 09-06-2016


Message 909 of 1484 (803731)
04-04-2017 4:28 AM
Reply to: Message 866 by Faith
04-03-2017 3:53 AM


Some kind of put-on? Er, no; these are my considered thoughts (I am a practisng Catholic, btw.). What do you want me to explain?
Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 866 by Faith, posted 04-03-2017 3:53 AM Faith has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 914 by Faith, posted 04-04-2017 7:44 AM Dredge has replied

  
Dredge
Member
Posts: 2852
From: Australia
Joined: 09-06-2016


Message 910 of 1484 (803732)
04-04-2017 4:50 AM
Reply to: Message 870 by vimesey
04-03-2017 10:27 AM


If you want to see the destructive power of feminism in action, look no further than Japan, which is heading for extinction due to its low birth-rate. After World War II, America forced Japan to include the right for women to vote in its new Constitution. This allowed the poison of feminism in the door and now the masses of young Japanese women are more interested in education and a career in the workforce than being mothers. Japan also has a very high rate of abortion - feminism's penchant for killing the unborn is well known.
Feminism is sold off as "equality ... empowement ... and liberation" to the gullible masses, but it looks a lot like genocide-in-slow-motion to me.
Below-replacement level birth-rates is a feature of almost every nation that has embraced feminism. Are you telling me you haven't noticed? If a cattle breeder, for example, discovered that more of his herd are dying than being born, he would rightly see this as a recipe for disaster. As Cardinal Pell says, "Populate or perish."

This message is a reply to:
 Message 870 by vimesey, posted 04-03-2017 10:27 AM vimesey has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 911 by vimesey, posted 04-04-2017 5:29 AM Dredge has replied

  
Dredge
Member
Posts: 2852
From: Australia
Joined: 09-06-2016


Message 912 of 1484 (803734)
04-04-2017 6:01 AM
Reply to: Message 911 by vimesey
04-04-2017 5:29 AM


Sorry, it seems that I didn't express myself properly: I didn't mean to say that I haven't read the Bible; I was questioning another poster's claim that I haven't read the Bible (I should have used a question mark).
So I'll set the record straight - I have read the Bible.
Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 911 by vimesey, posted 04-04-2017 5:29 AM vimesey has not replied

  
Dredge
Member
Posts: 2852
From: Australia
Joined: 09-06-2016


Message 913 of 1484 (803735)
04-04-2017 6:15 AM


Any form of gay rights is an attack on Christianity. The day is coming when anyone preaching against homosexuality with be charged with "hate speech" and thrown in prison. Jesus warned his followers that they would be persecuted and imprisoned (and much worse) on account of his name. The Antichrist is on his way and his followers are gaining in number and strength - look out!

Replies to this message:
 Message 915 by Faith, posted 04-04-2017 8:00 AM Dredge has not replied
 Message 921 by ringo, posted 04-04-2017 11:59 AM Dredge has not replied

  
Dredge
Member
Posts: 2852
From: Australia
Joined: 09-06-2016


Message 963 of 1484 (803964)
04-06-2017 5:35 AM
Reply to: Message 914 by Faith
04-04-2017 7:44 AM


When I said I haven't read the Bible, I was attempting to quote another poster, but it came out the wrong way. Anyway, sorry for the confusion and let me set the record straight by saying I've done my share of Bible reading.
-----------------------
My thoughts about equality certainly aren't de rigueur forCatholics - it seems to me most Catholics are too spiritually apathetic or corrupt to notice such things. Mainstream Catholicism (as opposed to true Catholicism) has become dominated by cultural Marxism since the 1960's, so it tends to worship equality and not be suspicious of it, like me.
Christianity used to the official religion of Western civilisation. But along came the devil and his so-called Enlightenment, and now, Equality has usurped Christianity as the official religion of Western civilisation. The Antichrist, when he comes, will ride in on the back of this religion of Equality, imo.
As pointed out in Romans 1, sexual and intellectual corruption are symptoms of spiritual corruption. The Catholic Church has become seriously spiritual corrupt and the sexual corruption that results from this is well known. The accompanying intellectual corruption comes in the forms of Marxism, Darwinism and inter-faith dialogue (all products of the Enlightenment, surprise, surprise). A relatively new form of corruption can be added to this list - environmentalism.
Same-sex marriage is a perfect example of how Satan can deceive the gullible masses by using a nice word like equality. (If you want to trick someone into swallowing poison, you disguise it by coating it with chocolate.)
-------------------------------------
I am aware of certain accusations made by Protestants down through the ages, many of which still exist. If you ask me, four of the last five Popes (Ratzinger wasn't too bad) have been taken theChurch down the wrong road.
I am not at all keen on the current Pope (Francis). Some of the things he's said and done are extremely suspect and I don't trust him. And the fact that the Loony Left liberals in the Church and the mainstream media are enamoured of him is certainly a bad omen.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 914 by Faith, posted 04-04-2017 7:44 AM Faith has not replied

  
Dredge
Member
Posts: 2852
From: Australia
Joined: 09-06-2016


Message 964 of 1484 (803966)
04-06-2017 5:51 AM
Reply to: Message 916 by jar
04-04-2017 8:13 AM


You say "charity and empathy is (are) the essence of communism". Tell that to the literally hundreds of millions of people who lost their lives at the hands of Communists in the twentieth century, not to mention the untold millions of dissenters who were tortured, imprisoned and impoverished.
-----------------------------------------
The book of Acts indicates that the core of the early Christians in Jerusalem formed a communal society. But I don't think there's any evidence that suggests this style of living is compulsory for followers of Christ.
Communal societies might work for small groups of intimately close friends, but they don't seem to work too well for large groups of human beings. As the early Church grew in size, it probably became apparent that communal living wasn't going to work as a general rule, so it was largely abandoned ... but not entirely - notice that for millennia, Catholic monasteries and convents and the like, which involve small groups of devoted Christians, have adopted the communal system similar to that which existed in the very early Church.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 916 by jar, posted 04-04-2017 8:13 AM jar has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 967 by jar, posted 04-06-2017 7:18 AM Dredge has not replied

  
Dredge
Member
Posts: 2852
From: Australia
Joined: 09-06-2016


Message 965 of 1484 (803967)
04-06-2017 6:00 AM
Reply to: Message 943 by NoNukes
04-04-2017 11:04 PM


Re: ICANTs concept of establishing a religion
I think it can be argued that abortion is murder without resorting to religion: If your mother aborted you while you were in the womb, would you be alive today? No, you wouldn't, so abortion is clearly the termination of a human life. Therefore, to terminate a foetus is to terminate a human life. The premeditated and cold-blooded termination of an (innocent) human life is murder, isn't it?

This message is a reply to:
 Message 943 by NoNukes, posted 04-04-2017 11:04 PM NoNukes has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 966 by Pressie, posted 04-06-2017 6:34 AM Dredge has not replied
 Message 968 by NoNukes, posted 04-06-2017 8:49 AM Dredge has not replied
 Message 969 by ringo, posted 04-06-2017 12:19 PM Dredge has not replied
 Message 970 by Dawn Bertot, posted 04-06-2017 1:20 PM Dredge has replied

  
Dredge
Member
Posts: 2852
From: Australia
Joined: 09-06-2016


Message 976 of 1484 (804177)
04-07-2017 6:16 PM
Reply to: Message 970 by Dawn Bertot
04-06-2017 1:20 PM


Re: ICANTs concept of establishing a religion
Thanks for your post, Dawn; I like the way you think. If naturalistic evolution ("science") is true, then it's implications for morality are profound. Objective morality can't exist of course and subjective morality can be literally anything you want it to be - it certainly doesn't need to be logical or rational.
Adolf Hitler did not think it immoral to murder 6 millions Jews; the Khmer Rouge did not think it immoral to to murder a quarter of the population of Cambodia; millions of people in the world don't think it's immoral to murder a foetus. According to "science", murder is neither right nor wrong, because there are no rules. No one can say to someone else, "My morality is good and yours is bad.".
"Science" also says the life of a human being is no more important than the life of any other organism - a mosquito, for example. So if killing a mosquito is not immoral, then neither is killing a human being.
Appeals to survival are also rendered invalid, because "science" says human life doesn't need to exist ... in fact, no life needs to exist. If humans don't need to exist, then their morality certainly doesn't. Besides, "science" says that at some point in the distant past, hominoids existed that had no morality at all. So morality isn't necessary for survival. Morality came into existence as the result of mindless, random mutations, so it's as meaningless as the meaningless process that (supposedly) produced it.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 970 by Dawn Bertot, posted 04-06-2017 1:20 PM Dawn Bertot has not replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 978 by Tangle, posted 04-07-2017 6:34 PM Dredge has not replied
 Message 979 by Porosity, posted 04-07-2017 6:35 PM Dredge has not replied
 Message 982 by LamarkNewAge, posted 04-07-2017 9:03 PM Dredge has not replied

  
Dredge
Member
Posts: 2852
From: Australia
Joined: 09-06-2016


Message 977 of 1484 (804178)
04-07-2017 6:19 PM
Reply to: Message 972 by New Cat's Eye
04-06-2017 4:04 PM


Re: Go Pope
Pope Francis does and says things that send the wrong message and set a bad example for other Catholics. Can't wait for his demise.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 972 by New Cat's Eye, posted 04-06-2017 4:04 PM New Cat's Eye has not replied

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024