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Theodoric
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Message 140 of 1484 (802281)
03-14-2017 12:32 PM
Reply to: Message 138 by New Cat's Eye
03-14-2017 12:24 PM


Re: related issues
But they need to suffer for their religion.
That is the whole point.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 291 of 1484 (802540)
03-17-2017 1:10 PM
Reply to: Message 290 by Faith
03-17-2017 1:05 PM


Re: Those who will not inherit the kingdom of God unless they repent
Wouldn't want it even if it were offered to me.

You do realize that is just a quote from a book?


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 299 of 1484 (802557)
03-17-2017 4:15 PM
Reply to: Message 297 by New Cat's Eye
03-17-2017 2:33 PM


Re: Biblical sources of the marriage ordinance
Just a nitpick.

1 Corinthians 6:16 actually


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 315 of 1484 (802582)
03-18-2017 9:28 AM
Reply to: Message 313 by dwise1
03-18-2017 5:56 AM


I am an Eagle Scout. I received my Eagle award in 1979. I have a son that just started Cub Scouts this year. I am in a sense hiding my religious views. I have been a Den leader this year and have been asked to be the Cub Master in two years. I am just waiting for the situation to come up where I am asked my religious believes. The charter organization is a fairly conservative Covenant church so I am quite sure it will come up. My response is going to be that I follow all of the Oath and the Law. Belief in "God" is a very amorphous personal thing. If they persist I will let them expel me. I will not lie.

I


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 334 of 1484 (802616)
03-18-2017 1:40 PM
Reply to: Message 333 by Faith
03-18-2017 1:35 PM


Re: Bible definition of gay marriage
Post the biblical definition of marriage. Please cite chapter and verse.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 510 of 1484 (802854)
03-20-2017 6:07 PM
Reply to: Message 508 by Percy
03-20-2017 5:13 PM


Re: Gay marriage is an attack on theocratic tyranny
I think you need to look up totalitarian.

Seems we have a few people here that think that word can mean anything they want it to mean. Makes it tough to have an honest debate.
I don't think anyone should aspire to emulate Humpty Dumpty.
quote:
"When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less."

https://en.wikiquote.org/...g-Glass#Chapter_6:_Humpty_Dumpty

But I guess, if it works for them.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 757 of 1484 (803421)
03-30-2017 8:19 AM
Reply to: Message 753 by jar
03-29-2017 4:44 PM


Re: don't rock the boat
So I suppose in Faith's view non-christians can not be married either. That is the only logical extension of her claims.

If gays destroy marriage by getting married, then non-christians must also, since they are not getting married before the christian sky daddy.

Edited by Theodoric, : ANother sentence to stay within guidelines


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 760 of 1484 (803431)
03-30-2017 1:38 PM
Reply to: Message 759 by Faith
03-30-2017 1:11 PM


Re: don't rock the boat
Show us the biblical definition. Chapter and verse please. Please don't give us your interpretation. Give us chapter and verse that says marriage can only be between a man and a woman and where it says in the Constitution of the United States that non-believers are beholden to this book of mythology.

Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 775 of 1484 (803457)
03-30-2017 6:23 PM
Reply to: Message 761 by Faith
03-30-2017 1:47 PM


Re: marriage ordinance again
As I thought nothing about marriage.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 776 of 1484 (803458)
03-30-2017 6:26 PM
Reply to: Message 762 by Faith
03-30-2017 2:24 PM


Re: don't rock the boat
Now you are lying about what you have said in the past. That is very poor form.

And as always you have nothing to back your assertion. Nothing in the Constitution says jack shit about citizens needing to follow your book of myths.

Do you ever have anything to back up your claims?


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 777 of 1484 (803459)
03-30-2017 6:30 PM
Reply to: Message 764 by Faith
03-30-2017 3:53 PM


Re: don't rock the boat
All this just makes me hate some of the Founders for their stupid Enlightenment deism that caused them to betray the Christian foundations of this country

So admit that some of the Founders did not advocate your stance and were actively against it.

You are actually advocating the overthrow of the Constitution. That is treason.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 785 of 1484 (803527)
04-01-2017 2:40 PM
Reply to: Message 783 by Faith
04-01-2017 12:33 PM


Re: marriage ordinance again
Nothing defining it. Talk about it but no actual definition.

My main point is there is nothing in the Constitution that says US citizens or US government needs to follow anything in this book of myths.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 871 of 1484 (803668)
04-03-2017 10:37 AM
Reply to: Message 865 by Dredge
04-03-2017 3:37 AM


Are we being POE'd again?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 1372 of 1484 (855353)
06-18-2019 7:44 PM
Reply to: Message 1371 by Hyroglyphx
06-18-2019 6:10 PM


Re: SCOTUS refuses to hear about "gay wedding cakes"
True, but it also never intended for gay marriage to be recognized at all.
What a lame argument. It was never even considered. Like slavery and women voting. So I guess you want to go back to complete original and intent? Black powder for you.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 1374 of 1484 (855365)
06-18-2019 8:15 PM
Reply to: Message 1373 by Hyroglyphx
06-18-2019 7:50 PM


Re: SCOTUS refuses to hear about "gay wedding cakes"
My bad. Was sitting at Target field waiting Twins Red Sox game to start and thought I read full post. I concede my dumbassery.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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