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Pressie
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Message 38 of 293 (803657)
04-03-2017 7:13 AM
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04-03-2017 4:58 AM


forexhr writes:

I am genuinely stunned with the ability of the people in this thread to ignore the essence of my argument.

And I'm genuinly stunned by the lack of the ability of forexhr to try to consider the essence of reality.

Hey, even I can try word salads!

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Message 57 of 293 (803814)
04-05-2017 7:41 AM
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04-05-2017 7:27 AM


forexhr writes:

I would like to remind that this thread is not about just so stories, evolutionary models, hypotheses and ad hoc hypotheses, fictional explanations... but about the physical reality of matter, or more specifically, about the share of bio-functionality in it. Matter is composed of particles. The more particles there are, the more different 3D structures can be created. With 2 particles we can create 1 3D structure, with 3 particles 2 different 3D structures, with 5 particles 12, with 15 particles 3426576, with 28 particles 153511100594603 and with 1000 particles we can create 8.37x10e3271 differnet 3D structures.(1)

Yes, I know, Lead 6+ will never fit into a tetrahedal crystal structure. The chances are zero, no matter how much creationists tell untruths about it and call those assumptions. So, what's your point?

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Message 59 of 293 (803822)
04-05-2017 8:26 AM
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04-05-2017 7:27 AM


This one is funny.

forexhr writes:

Hence, this is the physical reality of matter - with small number of particles you can create inconveniently large number of different 3D material structures.

Every living organism in this world and non-living matter consist of particles. Lots and lots of particles. Billions and billions of them. I'm not too sure why you consider that to be a problem for evolutionary theory.

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Message 86 of 293 (803979)
04-06-2017 8:22 AM
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04-06-2017 5:17 AM


forexhr, you keep on missing selection. Without including selection processes your maths are not applicable. It really is not hard to understand for anyone with an IQ of more than 2.
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Message 88 of 293 (803984)
04-06-2017 8:47 AM
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04-06-2017 8:25 AM


Yeah. For some reason he is just completely unable to understand the basics.

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Message 90 of 293 (803989)
04-06-2017 9:21 AM
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04-06-2017 9:11 AM


Books full of word salads never beat even one piece of scientific evidence.
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Message 97 of 293 (804087)
04-07-2017 6:29 AM
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04-07-2017 5:07 AM


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Regardless of what you have been taught, 'evolving' has nothing to do with populations, but with individual organisms.

Nope. The opposite. In evolutionary theory populations evolve. Not individuals. Maybe you should start studying the basics of evolutionary theory before commenting and writing word salads?

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Message 99 of 293 (804090)
04-07-2017 7:01 AM
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04-07-2017 6:57 AM


Another word salad from forexhr.

In evolutionary theory, populations evolve. Not individuals. It really is not hard to understand.

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Message 102 of 293 (804093)
04-07-2017 7:20 AM
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04-07-2017 7:14 AM


forexr writes:

You can repeat your mantra all you want, but it's not going to change the fact that individual organisms are what live, die, and reproduce, not populations. And in order to have evolution you need reproduction.

Again, populations evolve. Not individuals. It really is not hard to understand.
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Message 108 of 293 (804105)
04-07-2017 8:56 AM
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04-07-2017 8:51 AM


Ah, another word salad.

Evolutionary theory works on populations, not individuals.

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Message 111 of 293 (804110)
04-07-2017 9:02 AM
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04-07-2017 8:57 AM


forexhr writes:

This is not the evidence but just quotes and empty claims. You need to provide an actual, logical step by step explanation.

Evolutionary theory works on populations, not individuals. Do you understand that?
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Message 113 of 293 (804112)
04-07-2017 9:18 AM
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04-07-2017 9:03 AM


It's like trying to debate someone convinced that the earth is flat.
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Message 115 of 293 (804119)
04-07-2017 9:43 AM
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04-07-2017 9:25 AM


Pressie writes:

forexhr writes:

Well the fact is that we don't know ANY hypothetical step in the hypothetical history of the evolution because nobody was there to witness it.

Ah, we're going that way.

Let's go.

Yes, I was there. I saw it all. Prove me wrong.

Hey, forexr, you missed this one.

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Message 159 of 293 (804683)
04-12-2017 6:31 AM
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04-12-2017 4:33 AM


Re: Predictions and Discoveries
This is just another word salad. Nothing of value. Just more word salads.
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Message 161 of 293 (804687)
04-12-2017 7:45 AM
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04-12-2017 7:41 AM


Re: Predictions and Discoveries
Another word salad. This time accompanied by a Gish Gallop.

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