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Message 43 of 85 (804036)
04-06-2017 2:41 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by Faith
04-06-2017 2:05 PM


Re: Real world evidence
Faith writes:

No you are wrong. It is observations of the real world that suggest a young earth that require calling the dating methods into question. You often make that false assertion about its being religion, but you just aren't thinking about the actual arguments that creationists make, that's just a blind bias of your own.

You have said many times that your belief in the bible is sacrosanct. You have said that where your interpretation of the bible differs from that of science, then the science is wrong.

I assume you haven't changed that position?

Assuming that to be the case, you are not looking at the evidence objectively. You can not. You have a pre-ordaned conclusion and you attempt to make everything fit that conclusion.

Science does the opposite - it follows the evidence wherever it goes, even if it means trashing earlier, heart-felt beliefs. We know this to be true because those that trashed the young earth ideas hated their own conclusions.

A professor of mine told me that 'where you stand determines what you are able to see.' Every so often you need to examine your global positioning.


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Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
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Tangle
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Message 49 of 85 (804046)
04-06-2017 3:45 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by Faith
04-06-2017 3:09 PM


Re: Real world evidence
Faith writes:

Deal with the evidence given. I'm describing real world facts. You have to address those facts not your prejudices about religion.

The diference between us Faith, is that I am very willing to follow the evidence. I would be overjoyed to find evidence that destroyed extant science - no matter what it is. I'm a bit of an iconoclast, I enjoy disruptive change and new ideas. How fabulous it would be to find real evidence of a God. It would be the biggest thing to have happened to humanity ever. Why wouldn't anyone want to know that?

You, on the other hand, tell us that your beliefs are absolutely correct; just can't be wrong. You can't therefore follow evidence, you are required by your beliefs to deny evidence that contradicts them. You simply can not accept counter-biblical ideas. That's a fact isn't it? You told us so yourself.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien.

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Tangle
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Message 69 of 85 (804141)
04-07-2017 10:34 AM
Reply to: Message 67 by Davidjay
04-07-2017 10:22 AM


Re: Re:Step 2 Corelating 1656 Years to Time Units
Davidjay, I really dont care - and I doubt anyone else here does either - what date you manufacture from you book of tales - it really doesn't matter. Just tell us the date of the flood as you see it and we can go on from there to show you that it didn't actually happen.

You see this is quite easy for us, because there's no evidence for a global flood at any point in the earth's history, so just confirm your date and we can move on to evidence.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien.

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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