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Faith
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Message 14 of 353 (837801)
08-09-2018 1:40 PM


Standards versus chaos
There is nothing wrong with legal immigration that is designed for the improvement of the nation, but even if illegal uncontrolled immigration has some positive effects why support such a chaotic nonsystem when sensible nations have always had immigration standards?

And of course I object to this kneejerk PC leftist accusation of racism of anyone who supports such standards. The standards usually have to do with level of education and shared cultural values, NOT racism. If you want to import more laborers or refugees that's fine too, but do it with forethought and planning and voter participation. What is this big push for having no standards at all?

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Message 18 of 353 (837806)
08-09-2018 2:36 PM
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08-09-2018 2:30 PM


Re: Standards versus chaos
Open Borders is having no standards.
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Message 19 of 353 (837807)
08-09-2018 2:38 PM
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08-09-2018 2:29 PM


Re: Standards versus chaos
I'm for bias and bigotry if it means excluding criminals, jihadists and leftists/communists/ and people who poop on sidewalks..

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Message 21 of 353 (837810)
08-09-2018 2:48 PM
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08-09-2018 2:45 PM


Re: Standards versus chaos
How about if a hundred people want to camp in your living room?
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Message 34 of 353 (837845)
08-09-2018 11:21 PM
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08-09-2018 6:49 PM


Re: Standards versus chaos
… or practitioners of witchcraft, voodoo, animal sacrifice, human sacrifice, organized crime, gang formers and members, socialists, and many more.
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Message 35 of 353 (837846)
08-09-2018 11:23 PM
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08-09-2018 8:23 PM


Re: Trump's Parents-in-Law Use Chain Migration Which He Hates
Asians in general come from cultures that value work and personal social responsibility, in other words good candidates for citizenship.
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Message 37 of 353 (837849)
08-10-2018 12:05 AM
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08-09-2018 11:37 PM


Re: Conservative Cal Thomas (on a conservative site townhall.com) said this:
Who says I care what Republicans as a group think?
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Message 39 of 353 (837856)
08-10-2018 6:38 AM
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Re: Conservative Cal Thomas (on a conservative site townhall.com) said this:
We don't need more socialists. Isn't that a clear enough idea?
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Message 41 of 353 (837863)
08-10-2018 8:03 AM
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08-10-2018 7:32 AM


Re: 26% of conservatives and 23% of Tea Party folk support socialism.
What on earth do you mean, "dangerous?"
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Message 49 of 353 (837894)
08-10-2018 5:41 PM
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08-10-2018 12:01 PM


Re: Trump's Parents-in-Law Use Chain Migration Which He Hates
Oh well. It's about culture, not race, but there is of course always enough overlap to confuse the poor leftists.
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Faith
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Message 50 of 353 (837895)
08-10-2018 5:43 PM
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08-10-2018 12:23 PM


Re: Conservative Cal Thomas (on a conservative site townhall.com) said this:
I fail to see how "go ye into all the world" has anything to do with socialism or collectivism. People are saved one by one in all the world.

The gospel does of course have a corporate component, the Church, the Body of Christ, but governing the fallen world is a different kettle of fish.

ABE: If you want to prove socialism from the Bible you should start with the theocracy of Israel. I don't see socialism there, do you? All the tribes had their own land, private property was preserved. Shared property would be where I'd look for a socialist factor but I see a recognition of individual ownership instead.

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Message 51 of 353 (837896)
08-10-2018 5:44 PM
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08-10-2018 11:36 AM


Re: Trump's Parents-in-Law Use Chain Migration Which He Hates
that's why I said "in general."
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Message 53 of 353 (837900)
08-10-2018 5:58 PM
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08-10-2018 5:54 PM


Re: Trump's Parents-in-Law Use Chain Migration Which He Hates
I guess a bigot is someone who knows how to think then, who knows how to recognize important differences between cultures, ideas, ideologies and so on, whereas leftists have their minds in such a politically correct vise they can't think at all. That's what socialism and communism do to us. Mind control, authoritarian totalitarian mind control: don't you DARE have a thought we've called bigotry or we will
punish you without mercy.

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Message 55 of 353 (837902)
08-10-2018 6:10 PM
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08-10-2018 6:09 PM


Re: Conservative Cal Thomas (on a conservative site townhall.com) said this:
Jubilee is a law of mercy, has nothing to do with socialism.
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Message 57 of 353 (837904)
08-10-2018 6:15 PM
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Re: Conservative Cal Thomas (on a conservative site townhall.com) said this:
Yes a check on rampant greed, a NONSOCIALISTIC check on rampant greed. We don't need socialism, there are better ways of dealing with such things and the law of mercy is a major one. The Bible has many admonitions against the exploitation of the poor by the rich and general restraints on the rich without anything remotely like socialism.

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