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Tangle
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Message 178 of 353 (838705)
08-26-2018 11:19 AM
Reply to: Message 177 by Faith
08-26-2018 10:48 AM


Re: Conservative Cal Thomas (on a conservative site townhall.com) said this:
It's really, really strange that people that call themselve ‘Christians' admire people and vote for economic systems that are the exact opposite of what Jesus's teachings would tell them. I’ll never understand that.

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Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
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Message 203 of 353 (838730)
08-26-2018 3:51 PM
Reply to: Message 201 by Faith
08-26-2018 3:45 PM


Re: Robber Barons
Faith writes:

But just as a matter of fact the welfare state operates on theft and there's no way Jesus approves of theft, He advocates giving, period.

Well my welfare state is described as

“The welfare state of the United Kingdom comprises expenditures by the government of the United Kingdom intended to improve health, education, employment and social security.”

Jesusey sort of things I'd say. No mention of robbery.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 220 of 353 (838748)
08-26-2018 5:26 PM
Reply to: Message 217 by Faith
08-26-2018 4:44 PM


Re: Robber Barons
Just out of interest, is the tithe theft?

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 226 of 353 (838754)
08-27-2018 2:49 AM
Reply to: Message 221 by Faith
08-26-2018 6:08 PM


Re: Robber Barons
Faith writes:

The tithe is voluntary,

“The tithe is specifically mentioned in the Books of Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy. The tithe system was organized in a three-year cycle, corresponding to the Shemittah-cycle. These tithes were in reality more like taxes for the people of Israel and were mandatory, not optional giving. This tithe was distributed locally "within thy gates" (Deuteronomy 14:28) to support the Levites and assist the poor.”


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 245 of 353 (838843)
08-29-2018 11:30 AM
Reply to: Message 244 by Faith
08-29-2018 11:18 AM


Re: Robber Barons
So it was theft under Moses then?

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 256 of 353 (838863)
08-29-2018 12:38 PM
Reply to: Message 246 by Faith
08-29-2018 11:41 AM


Re: Robber Barons
Faith writes:

It was interesting to learn that the tithe included money to help strangers and widows and orphans since I thought there were other provisions made for them, etc

So was the tithe theft under Moses?


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Tangle
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Message 259 of 353 (838868)
08-29-2018 12:43 PM
Reply to: Message 258 by Faith
08-29-2018 12:39 PM


Re: Robber Barons
Faith writes:

I thought I clearly said I don't consider it theft.

How come a mandatoy tax is theft when a government does it but not theft when Moses does it? Mandatory was your test.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Tangle
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Message 261 of 353 (838872)
08-29-2018 12:58 PM
Reply to: Message 260 by Faith
08-29-2018 12:47 PM


Re: Robber Barons
Good luck with that, I'm sure you'll find a loophole somewhere that satisfies you but no-one else.

Best be quick though, you've only got another 48 hours or so.

Edited by Tangle, : No reason given.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 291 of 353 (838935)
08-30-2018 5:01 PM
Reply to: Message 290 by Faith
08-30-2018 4:53 PM


Which is exactly what a liberal democracy tries to do.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 309 of 353 (839139)
09-03-2018 5:20 PM
Reply to: Message 308 by Faith
09-03-2018 1:39 PM


Re: Conservative Cal Thomas (on a conservative site townhall.com) said this:
Faith writes:

Sorry, I'm sticking to my definition. If we get services for our taxes it's not socialism.

Sure you are, why be right about something when you can be flat-out, in your face, fucked-up wrong? That's your bloody trademark after all.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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