The TRVE history of the Flood...

Hi Coyote, I gave you a mechanism. God moved each continent to where they are in a nano second.No magic at all.Just God rearranging part of His creation just like you could do with a puzzle on a table.Would you rather have me believe that over 500 million years the continents moved from where they were in 1 place to where they are today?What is your mechanism?
It took a lot more power to ram the continents together to push the mountain ranges to where they are today. Show me where and how that power would be generated.Your method takes more magic than mine does.God Bless,

Hi jar, And exactly what evidence would you expect to find if a single land mass that had been covered with water was then divided into what we have today.You would probably find sea critter fossils on the top of every mountain and even in every mountain as all the land was covered in water for an indefinite period of duration.That is exactly what we find. But they were not put there during the flood of Noah. They accumulated there while being covered with the water that is found at Genesis 1:2. as all land was covered.You may think the flood is nonsense, that's OK. I think just about everything you say is nonsense.We are each entitled to our own opinions.God Bless,

Hi Jon, Are you going to blame the author for not knowing that the land mass was a lot different when it was in one place than it was when he was observing it? He would have been a Genius, as well as omniscient.He did not have science to help him to understand that the land mass above water was in one place at one time, and was divided into the locations it is in today.He wrote that all the water was in one place and he assumed it was still all in one place and he used terms that describe the landscape as he knew it to be.But remember a mole hill could be called a הר.God Bless,

Hi ringo, Good then discuss it with edge. Are you sure about that?

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And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

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Sounds to me like He supplied enough water to cover all the land mass as it was covered.God Bless,

Hi ringo Why does a author use any word?Why do you use any words?Are you saying you use words just to use words and not convey a specific meaning. Then why did he use a word that is used of watercourses dividing land rather than one which he knew and used to mean scatter the people?Is you comprehension that bad or you just trying to be disgustingly objectionable? Did you even read the post you are answering? Message 1205 Genesis 10:25 And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother's name was Joktan.In Genesis 10 25 the Hebrew word פלג is translated divided. It means divide or split water . It is used of a land mass being divided by water in Job 38,25. Why would it mean anything else here. It does not mean the same as the Hebrew word in verse 32.If the author wanted to refer to the people being divided why didn't he use the same word in verse 25? Did he forget which word to use that quick?Genesis 10:31 These are the sons of Shem, after their families, after their tongues, in their lands, after their nations.10:32 These are the families of the sons of Noah, after their generations, in their nations: and by these were the nations divided in the earth after the flood.In verse 32 the Hebrew word חלק פרד is translated divided. This word means: 1.to separate, divide.Do those 2 words look like they are the same word?
Do they have the same meaning?
Why did the author choose the one he did in verse 25? I think he used it because it had something to do with water dividing land.Edited by ICANT, : To strikethrough wrong word used and insert correct word.

hi edge, No I say they are like the smokers. I would envision a huge body of water trapped in a carven and that being released into the ocean just the large spring just off the coast of Hawaii and the one off the coast of Jacksonville Fl. They are fed by the aquifer, the ones that opened would have been trapped just as oil is trapped in the ground and would have been under great pressure. Depending of the size of the faucet God installed (pun intended) would determine how the water rushed out.But we have not yet determined how much water we needed to accomplish the covering of the land mass that existed in Genesis chapter 7.Neither do we know how many of the fountains of the deep there was that opened up. That would determine how much water was available.The water rises at the rate of about 9 feet per hr at the Bay of Fundy without tearing everything apart. In fact from day to day you will not notice any change.But whatever depth need there would be 40 24 hr days to accomplish the task. At 24 hours a day times 9 feet per hour times 40 days we would have 8,640 feet of water.If I remember correctly JonF said there was about enough water available to cover the earth with 8,856 feet of water if the earth was a perfect sphere. Why would you expect to find any evidence of such fountains when the dry land mass was all in one place. If you did what would it look like. As far as I know the Cayman trench could be the result of a lot of water being released into the ocean and then later the overburden collapsing and ending up 2 miles deep. Maybe that is what it would look like. Sure, out of the ocean.God Bless,

Hi ringo, Then show me where my Hebrew words are incorrect and do not mean exactly what I said they mean.God Bless,

hi jar, Then pull that mouse out of your pocket and you and him present the evidence.You have zero evidence for what happened billions of years ago.All that is available to you is pipe dreams and assumptions.But you are welcome to present what you have. My pipe dreams are no more ridiculous than yours.God Bless,

Hi NoNukes, arachno-guy (arachnophilia ) as you call him has studied modern Hebrew and wants to apply modern Hebrew rules to a language that has been dead for over 2200 years.The following are my assessments of the words used in the different verses with the meaning of the words from Brown, Driver, Briggs Hebrew Lexicon, you can go look them up for yourself if you don't want to accept what I have presented.I am going to insert links to where you and anybody else can verify my information that I have presented. The same Hebrew word used in Genesis 10:32 is used in 10:5 both are translated divided.Why would the author choose a different word in verse 25 which is between the usage in verse 5 and 32 if he did not want to say something different. Remember the author had no control over the translators and what words they used to represent what thought he was trying to convey to his readers. The Hebrews of his days would have no problem in understanding what he said.The Hebrew word used in Genesis 10:25 is used only 4 times in the Bible. 404 If you scroll down you will find the usage of this word and the different ways it could be translated. You scroll down a little further you will find Gesenius's opinion. A little further down you will find the four verses listed in which it is used.The first two are about the same identical things as the scribes thought it should be part of the history.In Job it is used of dividing a watercourse. Which is what would happen is the continents were moved into their present place from the single land mass that appeared in Genesis 1:9.In the psalms it is used in a prayer asking God to divide the people's tongues. Sounds like he wanted God to stop them from being able to speak. Or either to make the Indian's statement "white man speak with forked tongue" true.Thanks for your post as it made me find the mistake I had used and I would have hated to have used it in my book.God Bless

Hi dm Can you blink your eye in a nano second?
I don't think so, therefore you would not get whiplash. In fact you would not even know it took place. You have never seen a tablecloth removed from a table that has a 6 place setting of all glasses, plates, forks, knives, spoons and food removed without disturbing them, have you? God did not nag anyone. He simply told Noah He was going to destroy all life forms on the earth with water and he should build an ark.Noah did not have to build the ark.But he believed God so he built an ark God did not consult anyone other than Noah.He delayed the flood so Noah had time to warn the people what was going to happen so they perished.I preach the gospel today that Jesus died for the sins of all mankind and all they have to do is accept God's offer of a free full pardon to escape eternal death in hell. By doing that they can escape the judgment that is to come. But many people today choose not to believe God and will perish just like those in the flood.But a person that does not believe in God will never believe He will do what He said He would do.God Bless, My email is available in my profile.

Hi NoNukes, God speaks and it is done.All I know is that the Bible says in the days of peleg the earth was divided.God gives no details of how He did it.Doing it in a nano second is my opinion. The earth was divided some 4k years ago so He had to do it instantly. In fact the brakes are still stopping it.God Bless,

Hi NoNukes The author spent 80 days on a mountain with God so I assume God told him what he wanted us to know. He may even have shown him.
Then told him to write all those things down in a book. Now there has been a lot of people who have been involved in the process of copying those books between the time Mose wrote them and the manuscripts we have today.The things I have put forth on this site concerning the creation story I have believed since I was 10 years old.I had read the bible a couple of times and I presented my story to a prayer meeting group November 23, 1949.I had never been exposed to any preaching that was not a simple message of salvation and living a clean life. We had no TV to listen to and warp my mind. The only battery radio we had was on for 5 minutes in the evening to listen to Edward R Murrow report on the war. (battery was very expensive) Sometime Grandpa would listen to the Grand Ol Opery on Saturday night for 30 minutes.So I had no outside influence to influence what I believed about creation. The only thing I had was the promise that I had the Holy Spirit to lead me and guide me in all truth.I have been searching for the truth every since that first message. I did not start preaching until 1962. Well if It is there were some very smart people in the past as they were able to foretell thousands of things that was going to take place that has come to pass.That does not mean that the texts have not been tampered with over the years. All you have to do is look in a Bible book store and you will find hundreds of bibles that have been changed to suite mankind.
That is the reason I studied Hebrew and Greek. By knowing them I can examine the same documents and stones, or pictures of them for myself. I may not be able to find all the truth but I will keep searching for it until I get home and know it all. (home being heaven)God Bless,

Hi CRR I do not mind reading from a web site but I am not going to listen to a discourse in order to get to read it. To get 5 miles or more of strata the mountains had to be taller than they are now.I do not believe in a flood that has been made into what the YEC movement has presented as a catastrophic event. There could not have been enough vegetation on the earth to produce all the oil, natural gas and coal in the earth. AIG says there was enough to produce the coal but they neglect to address where the trillions of tons would have come from to produce the oil and natural gas.BTW I am old earth, I believe it is older than anyone on site does.God Bless,

Hi CRR For the plates to move from where they were at to where they are now over a year would have boiled all the water out of the ocean and destroyed everything on the planet.Besides that would make the Bible a lie.Peleg had not been born at the time of the flood so it could not have happened during the flood as he was born 109 years after the flood.I only have 2 options to choose from. It either happened over 250 million more or less.God spoke and it was.Easy choice for me.God Bless,

Hi kjsimons, Well I know the land mass was all in one place at one time Genesis 1:9 tells me that.Genesis 10:25 tells me that in the days of Peleg the earth was divided.The continents are still moving but they are slowing down.God Bless,