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LamarkNewAge 
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Message 32 of 404 (805177)
04-16-2017 4:35 PM


Explain the Bob Jones situation for starters.
World Book Encyclopedia volume B. 1991
Bob Jones University
quote:

Page 444
Bob Jones University is a Christian, coeducational liberal arts institution in Greenville, S. C. It is the largest fundamentalist school in the world, with about 5,500 students from the United States and more than 40 other nations.

The university, established by the world-famous evangelist Bob Jones, Sr., stresses the fundamental belief in the absolute authority of the Bible. About a third of the students train for some form of service as Christian leaders. The university program includes courses in church administration, missions, business,...

...The university... is known for its production of Christian educational motion pictures...



It would be another 10 years until the ban on white students dating non-whites would be lifted. The fallout of the 2000 Bush verses McCain GOP South Carolina primary was to get this world renowned fundi university to lift the ban.

Where did this racist doctrine come from?

The whole thing predates Evolution.

Here are more articles from volume 2.

Pages 386 to 401 cover BlackAmericans article.

quote:

Free Blacks.
....
The Census of 1790 revealed that the nation had about 59,000 free blacks, including about 27,000 in the North. By the early 1800s, most Northern states had taken steps to end slavery.
....
Most whites treated free blacks as inferiors.
....
In both the North and South, churches either banned blacks or required them to sit apart from white people. As a result, some blacks set up their own churches. In 1816, Richard Allen, a black Philadelphia minister, helped set up the African Methodist Episcopal Church, the first black denomination in the country.

That was before evolution can be blamed.

Philadelphia was a major Baptist center, I wonder if there is any evidence of non racist doctrine in the early 1800s among the legions of churches.

Here is World Book Article on the southern views post Darwin (not that southern 1890 views were much influenced by him as we should know ).

quote:

During the late 1800's, blacks in the South increasingly suffered from segregation, the loss of voting rights, and other forms of discrimination. Their condition reflected beliefs held by most Southern whites that whites were born superior to blacks with respect to intelligence, talents, and moral standards.. ... In 1890, Mississippi adopted several measures that in effect ended voting by blacks.

I really wish we could have an honest discussion about why creationism brought us a fundamentally racist world and theological outlook.

We always hear about Malthus and "undesirables" but that book was published in 1798 so his readers would have been of a creationist outline of history mindset.

White Supremacy existed even before the 1800s.

Look at Benjamin Banneker and his issues. Pre 1800 he was trying to use himself as an example for why blacks had the intelligence that should warrent cause for the abolition of slavery. Evolution was a view that was essentially unheard of in the 1700s

Creationism brought us a culture and a powerful constituency that made possible the fascist anti-democratic FBI of a time so close to our own - the 1960s!

J Edgar Hoover and his FBI existed on the voice and votes of a fascist South that denied democracy abroad ( on the ideology of racism ) and exported dictatorship to the world ( like the 1954 CIA bombing invasion of Guatemala which overthrew the democracy and installed a bloody dictatorship which led to hundreds of thousands of deaths of innocent people ).

The whole world nearly became a dictatorship during the Cold War as even the socialists had to become anti democratic so they could focus all their energy on surviving CIA assassination attempts (which wouldn't be possible for several reasons if there was a democracy and a more free society in the countries that they ran ). Creationism brought us Fidel Castro and his anti - Christian dictatorship ironically. Civil Rights was described by the FBI as a communist plot against America. It is a forgotten fact that democracy was seen as a communist scheme in the 1950s and 1960s.

Creationism really has been very anti democratic to the core and it was so much so that it drove the world toward that end.

Why did the Bob Jones University distinguish itself as a racist standout as late as the early 21st century?

The fundamentalist ideology and mission must be taken seriously as the reason.

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LamarkNewAge 
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Message 44 of 404 (805221)
04-16-2017 9:27 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by Faith
04-16-2017 8:43 PM


Re: Explain the Bob Jones situation for starters.
We were talking about racism now it seems to be abortion.

Abortion has been discussed endlessly but to this day abortion is a procedure that has proven to be much safer for the female than going through the 9 month pregnancy. The mortality rate is like a third even today.

A poor woman that got pregnant 50 to 100 years ago had a very good chance of loosing her life stastically when compared to the option of having an abortion.

All pregnancies are a risk to a woman's health.

It was much worse in Sanger's day.

An abortion doctor from Omaha (now in Bellevue ) said that the death rate per pregnancy is like 15 per 100,000 while it is only about 5 per 100,000 pregnancies if there is an abortion instead. He said studies consistently show the same thing.

Carhardt or Carheart is his name.

But this is getting off topic.


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LamarkNewAge 
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Message 46 of 404 (805231)
04-16-2017 10:24 PM
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04-16-2017 8:43 PM


Re: Explain the Bob Jones situation for starters.
I put Cathartic into google with search results and it turns out that he accidentally said 15 per1000 and the hits are all about that. I know someone who had a business in Omaha beside the Planned Parenthood office and he was constantly offered money to buy his land beside the Planned Parenthood office ( needed to legally be there to protest ) The business man was Pro Life but he didn't want to be part of a big legal issue.

Anyway put in search terms "abortion per 100,000 pregnancies safer " and leave out Leroy Carhart

One good study shows abortions to be 14 times less fatal than pregnancy carried out all the way.

Www. Ncbi.nlm.ni

Nevermind spell check won't allow.

Google Raymond E G Grimes and it is snow showing 8.8 per 100,000 pregnancy fatalities verses 0.6 for abortion.

GOOGLE
Raymond Grimes 8.8 0.6

It shows that even today you have 8.2 more deaths per 100,000 pregnancies if abortion is not performed.

Pregnancies are dangerous.

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