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Author Topic:   Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution.
New Cat's Eye
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Message 100 of 1311 (807876)
05-06-2017 10:16 AM
Reply to: Message 99 by Davidjay
05-06-2017 10:15 AM


Re: Definitely Evolution is a cult?
And what have you been studying?

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Message 128 of 1311 (808052)
05-08-2017 10:47 AM
Reply to: Message 121 by Dredge
05-08-2017 3:02 AM


Really? In that case, please answer me this: Why is a scientifically useless theory - namely, Darwin's theory of Common Descent - dogmatically preached at virtually every level of education in the industrialised world?
Another question: Why are people who oppose a scientifically useless theory - namely, Darwin's theory of Common Descent - persecuted and ridiculed in academic and intellectual circles for doing so?

It seems to me that, contrary to your claim, creationists aren't the only ones obsessed with Darwin. Evidently, the entire scientific community is obessed with Darwin. What could account for this, do you think?

It's because the Theory of Evolution works. That is, it is useful and it explains things well. Simply put; it is a good tool. That's all there is to it.

Added by edit:

As a theistic evolutionist, you seem blissfully unaware that millions of years of evolution is incompatible with Scripture - and I'm not just talking about the first chapter of Genesis. But this is off-topic so that's all I'll say on the matter here.

That's bullshit. I'm a Christian and I accept evolution - and that doesn't cause compatibility problems with my understanding of scripture.

Edited by New Cat's Eye, : No reason given.


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New Cat's Eye
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Message 157 of 1311 (808214)
05-09-2017 8:57 AM
Reply to: Message 146 by Dredge
05-09-2017 2:08 AM


Re: What mechanism stops evolutionary change?
Evolutionists and creationists argue about what was possible or not after the Flood, but both seem to be forgetting one important factor: The God who created all things isn't confined to natural laws and can perform miracles. After the Flood, the Creator could have decided to "hurry things along" by miraculously creating further variations within the kinds of creatures that came off the ark. God could have easily facilitated "accelerated evolution" - no problem at all.

In which case, creation science doesn't have to stick strictly to the Bible script, as God could have performed all sorts of miracles in his creation that aren't mentioned at all in the Scriptures.

For example, if there was one kind of giraffe on the ark and there are four species today, so what? God wanted four species to exist, so after the Flood he waved his magic wand and four species eventually emerged from one kind. If he wanted twenty species of giraffe, then twenty would have eventually emerged from one kind. What's the problem?

The problem is that makes God a liar or trickster - or, your god is Loki...

The world tells us that giraffes were not magically poofed into existence one day by a god. If your God did actually do that, then he also disguised it, and that is a dirty trick.


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New Cat's Eye
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Message 200 of 1311 (809025)
05-15-2017 2:23 PM
Reply to: Message 193 by Dredge
05-14-2017 5:05 AM



If children are taught that Darwinism is nonsense, they aren't missing out on anything, because biology doesn't need Darwinism; it's just an irrelevant atheist creation-story. Darwinism doesn't advance any science in any way; and since it is only theorising, it doesn't qualify as true knowledge.

Cool story, bro. Now, while you are wallowing in your ignorance, scientists will continue to employ the Theory of Evolution as a working theory that explains biological phenomenon.

It simply works - despite your vitriol.


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New Cat's Eye
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Message 220 of 1311 (809243)
05-17-2017 11:10 AM
Reply to: Message 203 by Dredge
05-16-2017 5:59 PM


New Cat's Eye writes:

scientists will continue to employ the theory of evolution as a working theory that explains biological phenomena.

Useless talk amounting to useless science, in other words. Not impressed, but slightly amused.

I don't care if you're impressed or amused.

The only people missing out on the usefulness of this science are people like you who simply deny it without reason.

Well, there's reasons... they're just stupid religious ones.

Without evolution, biology just doesn't make much sense.


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New Cat's Eye
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Message 224 of 1311 (809252)
05-17-2017 12:17 PM
Reply to: Message 221 by RAZD
05-17-2017 11:52 AM


Re: with fundamentalist creationist religions, biology doesn't make sense
You could also say that with fundamentalist creationist religions, biology doesn't make sense.

For sure.

Perhaps that's why there are so many confused creationists ...

Yeah, maybe one day the Catholic Church will grow up and drop all the nonsense about special human creation - 'cause that shit is confusing as hell.


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New Cat's Eye
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Message 248 of 1311 (809375)
05-18-2017 8:52 AM
Reply to: Message 232 by Dredge
05-17-2017 5:59 PM


NewCat'sEye writes:

Without evolution, biology just doesn't make much sense.


Are you saying that I must accept, for example, that humans evolved from a hominid, in order for biology to make sense to me?

Nope.

First off, humans are still hominids so it doesn't make sense to say that we evolved from them.

Second, I don't know what will, or will not, make sense to you in particular.

What I am saying is that the knowledge we have from biology would be a bunch of independent data points that didn't tie together and couldn't be made sense of as a whole if we didn't have the Theory of Evolution to explain it all.


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New Cat's Eye
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Message 251 of 1311 (809492)
05-18-2017 2:42 PM
Reply to: Message 228 by Dredge
05-17-2017 5:34 PM


NewCat'sEye writes:

the usefulness of this science

Yeah, right - just like the Theory of Parallel Universes is useful!


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New Cat's Eye
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Message 257 of 1311 (809530)
05-18-2017 6:29 PM
Reply to: Message 254 by Faith
05-18-2017 6:07 PM


Re: Useful applications of evolutionary theory and processes
I could see the usefulness of knowing the microevolutionary history which is about all you can know anyway, especially since there is no further history involved.

Nobody believes you.


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New Cat's Eye
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Message 258 of 1311 (809531)
05-18-2017 6:30 PM
Reply to: Message 256 by Faith
05-18-2017 6:27 PM


Re: Useful applications of evolutionary theory and processes
Who's asking you to believe anything? Use your critical thinking: the strata and the fossils are great evidence for a worldwide Flood. The problem is you guys have bought into a really nutty theory about those things and can't see the true situation for what it is.

Nobody believes that either.


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New Cat's Eye
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Message 263 of 1311 (809612)
05-19-2017 1:53 PM
Reply to: Message 261 by Taq
05-19-2017 12:36 PM


Re: Useful applications of evolutionary theory and processes
Your posts are perhaps the best example of phychological projection I have ever seen. You are projecting your own lack of critical thinking and surrender to dogmatic beliefs onto others as a way of reducing your own internal struggle to deal with these obvious problems.

Meh, the conviction of their beliefs seems feigned...


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New Cat's Eye
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Message 287 of 1311 (809818)
05-21-2017 11:08 AM
Reply to: Message 270 by Dredge
05-20-2017 6:28 PM


sigh ... Here we go again - another Darwinist mistaking theory for reality.

lol, no.

Your kind are so hopelessly brainwashed that you can't even tell the difference between a theory and a practical use for a theory.

Well that's just prejudiced, jerk.

This is Scientismistic delusion.

You dumbass, I'm not even an atheist.

Bizarre stuff.

Get it right, first, then maybe it'll make some sense.

Pre-judging me as an atheist engaging scientism and avoiding/dodging my point to make an insult is a wasted opportunity on your part.

You should be ashamed of yourself.


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New Cat's Eye
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Message 875 of 1311 (815220)
07-17-2017 3:48 PM
Reply to: Message 874 by Tanypteryx
07-17-2017 3:32 PM


Re: Insecticide resistance
Apparently, being a religion is the worst insult they can come up with.

Or the whole: "See, evolution takes faith!" arguments, as if they see faith as some kind of bad thing - which makes you wonder...


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New Cat's Eye
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Message 893 of 1311 (815278)
07-18-2017 8:43 AM
Reply to: Message 881 by Dredge
07-18-2017 1:12 AM


Re: Insecticide resistance
Religion requires faith, but shouldn't science - eg, evolution - be confined to evidence? It's interesting that you seem to think faith has a place in science.

That's, like, the exact opposite of what I was saying.

Faith has no place in science.

It is the Creationists who are the ones that say that evolution requires faith - as if requiring faith is some sort of denigration of the idea...

Which is hilarious because if that was true then they'd be poking fun at their own religious beliefs.


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New Cat's Eye
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Message 899 of 1311 (815300)
07-18-2017 12:20 PM
Reply to: Message 880 by Dredge
07-18-2017 1:06 AM


Re: Insecticide resistance
I would call Darwinism a cult, rather than a religion; but I like to refer to evolution science as "atheist theology", because it is the equivalent of theology to theists.

You're not coming off as honest... I pretty sure I've said this to you before.

I am a religious person. I practice theology.
I also accept evolution. That is very different from religious belief.

Evolution science is in no way equivalent, or even similar, to theology.


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