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Author Topic:   Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution.
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Message 915 of 1311 (815332)
07-19-2017 8:33 AM
Reply to: Message 905 by Dredge
07-18-2017 11:17 PM


Re: Insecticide resistance
Theistic evolutionists are heretics and the worst theologians ever invented, imo. Their idea of sound theology is laughable and pathetic - ignore Scripture and Christian doctrine and replace it with Scientism. Theistic Darwinists and atheistic Darwinists are actually on the same side and belong to the same cult.
You sound like an idiot.
For your sake, I hope you're not being honest.
But either way, you are not worth my time.
Good day, sir.

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Message 951 of 1311 (815437)
07-20-2017 8:52 AM
Reply to: Message 936 by Dredge
07-20-2017 1:15 AM


Re: Insecticide resistance
"For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths." - 2 Timothy 4:3-4
Wow, that sounds like it is speaking to you. You won't put op with the sound doctrine of evolution and instead, to suit your own desires, you turn towards the myth of creationism. Tsk tsk.
quote:
The truth of our faith becomes a matter of ridicule among the infidels if any Catholic, not gifted with the necessary scientific learning, presents as dogma what scientific scrutiny shows to be false.
- St. Thomas Aquinas

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Message 962 of 1311 (815525)
07-21-2017 12:29 AM
Reply to: Message 958 by CRR
07-20-2017 8:47 PM


Re: seven "assumptions"
(2) results in UNIVERSAL COMMON ANCESTRY.
What if spontaneous generation occurred twice, and one died and everything else came from the other one? There'd still be a universal common ancestor.
What if it happened 100 times, and 99 died? Same deal.
A single occurrence isn't required.

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Message 977 of 1311 (815562)
07-21-2017 9:37 AM
Reply to: Message 965 by CRR
07-21-2017 1:26 AM


Re: seven "assumptions"
Don't cop out. Show me the quote.
Regardless though, my point stands: a single occurrence of spontaneous generation is not required for universal common ancestry.
Care to address that point?

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Message 1043 of 1311 (815769)
07-24-2017 9:47 AM
Reply to: Message 999 by CRR
07-21-2017 11:25 PM


Re: seven "assumptions"
OK, here it is;
"They suggest that life arose from inanimate matter only once and that all organisms, no matter how diverse in other respects, conserve the basic features of the primordial life. (It is also possible that there were several, or even many, origins of life; if so, the progeny of only one of them has survived and inherited the earth.) "
Nothing in Biology Makes Sense except in the Light of Evolution, Theodosius Dobzhansky
So then you do agree that a single occurrence of spontaneous generation is not required?

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Message 1044 of 1311 (815772)
07-24-2017 10:02 AM
Reply to: Message 1035 by Dredge
07-24-2017 3:17 AM


Re: Insecticide resistance
The Bible you claim to follow offers not the slightest hint that the Darwinist tale you believe in is scriptural.
It also doesn't talk about gravity, or germs...
It misses quite a bit, doesn't it?
On the contrary, it states something very different - creation over a few days.
It states that in what it quite clearly a myth. You don't think that snakes can talk, do you?

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Message 1062 of 1311 (815844)
07-25-2017 10:27 AM
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07-24-2017 8:24 PM


Re: seven "assumptions"
Similarly the occurrence of life could have taken millions of years with only one winner, as Dobzhansky says. The consequence is that all living things today have come from a last universal common ancestor. That at least is the consensus opinion of evolutionists today.
What if we do find a life form that could not have arisen from that ancestor? Not much really. Evolutionists would just say that there were at least two survivors from that initial origin of life.
Right, so therefore it is not an assumption. Agreed?

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Message 1083 of 1311 (815900)
07-26-2017 8:37 AM
Reply to: Message 1072 by Dredge
07-26-2017 1:44 AM


Re: Insecticide resistance
It's likely that when the serpent "spoke" to Eve, it may not have been in an audible voice, but something telepathic...
Oooh, a likelihood... can you show me your math? How did you determine the odds?
Or did you just make that up?
The way Genesis is written (at least in the NIV), when the Lord speaks to Adam & Eve it has quotation marks around exactly like when the snake is speaking to Eve. They're both characters in the myth that speak to Adam & Eve in the same way as any other conversation would go. There's no reason to think that it was telepathic and not verbal.
But this thread is about evolution and not Genesis.

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Message 1098 of 1311 (815977)
07-27-2017 11:11 AM
Reply to: Message 1095 by Dredge
07-27-2017 2:32 AM


Re: Insecticide resistance
So when Satan communicated his will to Judas Iscariot, do you imagine he did so in an audible voice that everyone could hear, or was the communication achieved silently? If silently, how does that work?
I dunno, quote the relevant passages and let's look at them.

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Message 1122 of 1311 (816057)
07-28-2017 12:07 PM
Reply to: Message 1107 by Dredge
07-28-2017 2:23 AM


It doesn't say anything about Satan speaking to Judas, but this is way too off topic.

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Message 1172 of 1311 (816293)
08-02-2017 12:09 PM
Reply to: Message 1170 by herebedragons
08-02-2017 9:56 AM


Re: seven "assumptions"
This quoting-out-of-context is the rule rather than the exception.
That comes right out of their shitty "How to Use the Bible" playbook

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Message 1187 of 1311 (816355)
08-03-2017 10:13 AM
Reply to: Message 1186 by Faith
08-03-2017 8:53 AM


Re: seven "assumptions"
Either the Bible is God's accurate inerrant word or it's just another fable to be ignored.
Worst. Theology. Ever.

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Message 1188 of 1311 (816356)
08-03-2017 10:18 AM
Reply to: Message 1177 by Dredge
08-03-2017 2:05 AM


Re: seven "assumptions"
If the first parts of Genesis are allegorical, when does the allegory stop and the literal begin?
What a loaded question!
I wouldn't call it allegorical... allegory is an intentional literary device. I'd bet that ancient Hebrews thought they were talking about actual events when passing on their oral history.
Even when it finally got written down, the authors may have thought they were actual historical events. That would make it not allegory.
But to answer your question: There is no "point" in the Bible where the myths become factual descriptions of actual events.
But we do know for a fact that the entire planet has not been covered in water since humans have existed, so it'd definitely have to be after The Flood. Honestly, I doubt the exodus even happened for real - but that doesn't mean that everything before it is completely untrue.
There is no dichotomy of either 100% true or 100% false that we have to apply to the Bible.

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Message 1198 of 1311 (816383)
08-03-2017 4:22 PM
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08-03-2017 4:03 PM


Re: seven "assumptions"
Because everything is subject to human error ...
Except writings inspired by God Himself.
Prove it.

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