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Author Topic:   Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution.
PaulK
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Message 1243 of 1311 (816475)
08-05-2017 4:23 AM
Reply to: Message 1241 by Faith
08-05-2017 3:17 AM


Re: seven "assumptions"
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It remains a fact that if God inspired the writers the writing has no errors and should be taken as God's own communication.
That's not a fact. God doesn't have to do things the way you want. God can let the writers make errors if he chooses not to prevent it. Doesn't the fact that not one book of the Bible presents itself as a direct communication from God count for something ? Isn't it a good reason to think that the Bible is largely a human creation and fallible ?

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Message 1248 of 1311 (816486)
08-05-2017 9:40 AM
Reply to: Message 1247 by Faith
08-05-2017 9:33 AM


Re: inspiration
It's not logic, it's just your opinion. And one which has very dubious grounds.

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Message 1252 of 1311 (816491)
08-05-2017 10:37 AM
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08-05-2017 10:33 AM


Re: inspiration
Indeed. Since it is a clear fact that the Bible is not inerrant you must be wrong about something. Either the Bible is not inspired - at least in part, or your notion of inspiration is incorrect.
Edited by PaulK, : No reason given.

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Message 1291 of 1311 (816559)
08-06-2017 8:19 AM
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08-06-2017 8:14 AM


Re: this preposterous method
You forget that Faith's judgement of other views is less than rational. Or honest.

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Message 1301 of 1311 (816570)
08-06-2017 1:12 PM
Reply to: Message 1300 by Faith
08-06-2017 12:53 PM


Re: evidence vs teachings
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No, dumkopf. The Bible describes supernatural events in the context of history, which is what makes it evidence-based.
No, it makes it like other ancient writings, and no more evidence-based. Especially when the "history" is myth or legend, and all of Genesis comfortably fits into those categories.
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The Bible isn't ALL history, but the parts that are history are intended to be evidence of God through His doings in the world.
They certainly aren't good evidence for that. Not least because they aren't very trustworthy as historical documents - even the better parts like the Books of Kings.

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Message 1303 of 1311 (816572)
08-06-2017 1:24 PM
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08-06-2017 1:14 PM


Re: evidence vs teachings
The Creation stories, the Flood, Babel are all obviously mythical. But if you think other ancient writings only feature the Gods in myths you are mistaken.
To give just one example, isn't the siege of Troy at least as historical as Joshua's invasion? Doesn't the Iliad contain genuine information about the times it concerns (e.g. The use of boars-tusk helmets)

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