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I flame out over stupidity and unfairness. The Flood has been proven over and over.It's a laugh that you think you "see evidence" when you are misinterpreting the evidence of the fossils, rather like a reader of tea leaves, fitting it into the ToE, when the Flood meaning is far more reasonable.;

You're absolutely right, that's the way it ought to be. But being right and being recognized as right are two different things.

Isn't EvC a reputable journal?

Gosh, with all the scientific talent at EvC it ought to qualify as a reputable journal. But as I said, being right and being recognized as right, are two different things.

I'm not "handwaving" anything. I don't address the fossil record in general, but Pelycodus is obviously the result of the Flood.Considering that there were no doubt many different ways the strata got laid down in the Flood -- waves, tides, precipitation from quiet water, the works -- there's no way you could come up with a formula to explain all the ways the sediments got deposited.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I'm sick to death of this lying crap. It's bad enough coming from an atheist but from someone who says he's a Christian it's more than offensive. The EVIDENCE for a genuine Christian is WHAT GOD SAYS. You don't start anywhere else if you care about the truth. That IS the evidence you follow, that's where you start. There is nothing anti-science about starting from a known truth. Which YOU SHOULD SHARE.; But who cares if you or anyone else shares it, a Christian should know it is the truth and that is where all truth starts, including scientific investigations.I'm sick of the constant same old same old here. The same old stupid misrepresentations of creationism in particular. The same old stupid accusations of creationists and conservatives. The same old meanness of the Left they project on the Right. Blech.,And nobody here has the wit to do anything in response to this either except vomit out the same old lying crap. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Is the Bible evidence for the virgin birth?
For the resurrection of Christ?
For the miracles of Christ?
Or in the OT for the parting of the Red Sea?
For the miracles of Elijah?
For the supernatural preservation of Daniel and his friends?
If it is evidence for those things how about for the worldwide Flood? Does it SAY it covered the whole world?
Is it evidence for there being no death in the world before the Fall? BY one man death entered...I don't really care if you consider ahy of that evidence for anything. My objection is to this attack on YECs who do take it all as evidence. The BIBLE, GOD'S word, not Ken Ham or anybody else. You have no right to tell YECs we can't base our SCIENTIFIC thinking on the Bible's CLEAR EVIDENCE because it's GOD'S WORD. Believe what you want but don't lecture us with your theistic assumptions.YECs should not have to put up with all this lying crap about how we aren't scientifically minded because we supposedly believe a myth. . That's tiresome and unfair because we do base our scientific thinking on the Bible and we're not going to stop. The Bible is our basic starting point. I hardly ever mention it in my arguments but it's there underneath my arguments for the Flood and against the ToE.So I could not care less what YOU believe, but don't tell US what to believe and accuse us of not addressing evidence that you think should be put before the Bible. I don't and YECs don't and it isn't for you to dictate to us and call us unscientific. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

THERE IS NOTHING UNSCIENTIFIC ABOUT STARTING FROM A KNOWN FACT.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

What is the point of arguinjg this over and over and over? I don't expect to convince unbelievers, and I don't CARE what you believe, but what is the point of repeating your view ad nauseam? But it was HBD who pushed me over the edge, not unbelievers, when he said: Why should I have to be assaulted with this opinion I disagree with over and over and over and over? YECs are NOT ANTI-SCIENCE and why do I have to hear this a million times when it's untrue? For one thing no YEC rejects normal science but that's a stupid lie that keeps getting repeated as if it's true. What we reject is the specific historical sciences the ToE and Old Earth Geology. Why can't this simple truth just be accepted?There is nothing wrong with setting out to prove the worldwide Flood from the geological evidence, taking it as a given because God's word says it happened and in a certain time frame. What's the point of hitting us over the head every day with YOUR opinion that it didn't happen? WHAT'S THE POINT? But a supposed "Christian" like HBD should at least spare us the usual condemnation and allow that we aren't any less sscientific in how we go about trying to prove these things for taking the Bible as foundational.Ugh I'm sick sick sick of this. It's a HUGE waste of time and a constant experience of being punched in the face.=====================================
And yes Mr. Dragon Bug there is a cure. Why don't you get yourself appointed an Admin so you can suspend me forever. I'm sure it would be a great pleasure for you and a great honor for me.

I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK. YOUR OPINION IS WORTHLESS. IF WE ARE NOT ALLOWED AT EVC MAKE A RULE THAT WE CAN'T BE HERE AT ALL. THAT WOULD BE A HUGE RELIEF.I'M TIRED OF BEING PUNCHED IN THE FACE FOR WHAT I SAY.There is nothing unscientific about what YECs do. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

You are wrong. The Bible is evidence of the things I listed. It's our only source of the information aboutr those things. Written documents, witness evidence, is evidence.NO I AM NOT GIVING NATURAL EXPLASNATIONS FOR SUPE$RNATURAL EVENTS.I'm not interested in your reasoning or your conclusions. I don't care why you believe what you believe. Just stop telling YECs that we aren't doing science because it doesn't fit with your conclusions.Or maybe I should just epeak for myself. STOP TELLING ME I'M NOT BEING SCIENTIFIC WHEN I KNOW I AM.And I've never said any person is worthless, "which is anybody who disageresz with me? Liar liar liar liar liar. But that some opinions are worthless, and yours on this subject are.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

No there isn't. Evidence is evidence, truth is truth. And I'm not asking you to accept it, just accept that it's the basis for YEC reasoning and if you can't accept that this whole debate is a sham. Which I knew anyway but it's getting to me again.

Talk about magic! Talk about believing six impossible things before breakfast! It's this kind of nonsense the ToE is made of, and you call it Science. It's just impossible fantasies.But microevolution eats information, and that's another big reason it can't happen.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Was Hutton doing science before anyone accepted his theories? Or any other pioneer?

Then goodbye, who needs it.