Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 65 (9162 total)
7 online now:
Newest Member: popoi
Post Volume: Total: 915,809 Year: 3,066/9,624 Month: 911/1,588 Week: 94/223 Day: 5/17 Hour: 1/1


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution.
Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days)
Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 1277 of 1311 (816535)
08-05-2017 10:53 PM
Reply to: Message 1273 by JonF
08-05-2017 2:31 PM


Re: this preposterous method
The Bible is all about evidence because it's history, the miracles in particular being given as evidence of the reality and character of God. Other religions just teach you principles, they aren't interested in proving anything about their claims though they may describe all kinds of supernatural phenomena. In my experience you aren't asked to believe them, just practice their principles.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1273 by JonF, posted 08-05-2017 2:31 PM JonF has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 1288 by JonF, posted 08-06-2017 7:43 AM Faith has not replied

  
Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days)
Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 1278 of 1311 (816536)
08-05-2017 10:54 PM
Reply to: Message 1274 by JonF
08-05-2017 2:38 PM


Re: this preposterous method
I also wasn't addressing authorship.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1274 by JonF, posted 08-05-2017 2:38 PM JonF has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 1286 by JonF, posted 08-06-2017 7:34 AM Faith has not replied

  
Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days)
Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 1289 of 1311 (816557)
08-06-2017 7:48 AM
Reply to: Message 1287 by JonF
08-06-2017 7:38 AM


Re: this preposterous method
Because you refuse to consider the possibility that you might be wrong or engage in any meaningful discussion of why you ink your interpretation is true. You have based your interpretation solely on your reading of the Bible, without considering any facts from the real world or anyone else's interpretation of the Bible.
Oh good grief. This is simply untrue. I listen to Bible exegetes preaching on the Bible all the time, for the last thirty years or more. There are thousands of preachers on the internet to listen to. And I've read hundreds of books by Bible preachers over that same period of time. I would never trust my own personal reading of the Bible. I know a lot about the textual critics and the whole miserable mess of modern attacks on the Bible. You just made up that accusation out of thin air. I'm probably a lot more educated in all that than most Christians, but I also don't know any Christians who rely only on their own reading of the Bible to form their judgments.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1287 by JonF, posted 08-06-2017 7:38 AM JonF has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 1290 by JonF, posted 08-06-2017 8:14 AM Faith has not replied
 Message 1292 by jar, posted 08-06-2017 8:30 AM Faith has replied

  
Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days)
Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 1293 of 1311 (816561)
08-06-2017 8:35 AM
Reply to: Message 1292 by jar
08-06-2017 8:30 AM


Re: God gave animals brains to use.
Can't win for losing at EvC. Either I'm relying arrogantly on my own private judgment of the Bible or I'm an ignorant fool for considering the opinions of the many preachers and teachers ordained by God to know more than the rest of us.
Since there is a lot of disagreement among them I can hardly be accused of uncritically swallowing a single point of view.
Oh but one way or another I'll be accused of something. There's no way to avoid that here.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1292 by jar, posted 08-06-2017 8:30 AM jar has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 1294 by JonF, posted 08-06-2017 8:59 AM Faith has not replied
 Message 1295 by JonF, posted 08-06-2017 9:00 AM Faith has not replied
 Message 1296 by JonF, posted 08-06-2017 9:00 AM Faith has replied
 Message 1297 by jar, posted 08-06-2017 9:03 AM Faith has replied

  
Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days)
Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 1299 of 1311 (816568)
08-06-2017 12:30 PM
Reply to: Message 1297 by jar
08-06-2017 9:03 AM


Re: God gave animals brains to use.
I'm not talking about human "ordination" which is what you seem to be talking about. When God ordains someone He calls him to a specific task such as preacher or teacher, equipping him with all the necessary education for the task.
What makes you think I or anyone just believes such statements as you claim we do? I suspect you don't bother to learn anything and it certainly shows, but most of us study for ourselves what we come to believe to be true.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1297 by jar, posted 08-06-2017 9:03 AM jar has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 1307 by jar, posted 08-06-2017 2:21 PM Faith has not replied

  
Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days)
Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 1300 of 1311 (816569)
08-06-2017 12:53 PM
Reply to: Message 1296 by JonF
08-06-2017 9:00 AM


evidence vs teachings
When I started investigating religions before I was a believer in anything, a project that eventually led to my becoming a Protestant, I read a ton of stuff from other religions, Hinduism and Buddhism in particular, a lot of Catholic mysticism, also books about Gnosticism and other occultic and cultic stuff. I had long conversations with practitioners of Buddhism and followers of Hindu gurus.
The Bible describes supernatural events in the context of history, which is what makes it evidence-based. The Bible isn't ALL history, but the parts that are history are intended to be evidence of God through His doings in the world. The parts that are teachings and other forms of literature are not meant to be evidence, and since other religions are primarily teachings they aren't evidence-based.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1296 by JonF, posted 08-06-2017 9:00 AM JonF has not replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 1301 by PaulK, posted 08-06-2017 1:12 PM Faith has replied

  
Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days)
Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 1302 of 1311 (816571)
08-06-2017 1:14 PM
Reply to: Message 1301 by PaulK
08-06-2017 1:12 PM


Re: evidence vs teachings
The other ancient religious are all obviously mythical, the Bible is not.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1301 by PaulK, posted 08-06-2017 1:12 PM PaulK has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 1303 by PaulK, posted 08-06-2017 1:24 PM Faith has not replied
 Message 1305 by Porosity, posted 08-06-2017 2:06 PM Faith has not replied
 Message 1306 by JonF, posted 08-06-2017 2:12 PM Faith has not replied

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024