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Author Topic:   Encouragement From A Believers Perspective
Davidjay 
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Message 7 of 37 (808216)
05-09-2017 9:05 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by Thugpreacha
05-09-2017 2:23 AM


Re: I think most fundamentalists have read a similar devotional.
We are taught that faith is the antidote to fear. Faith is the opposite. Every angel that ever showed up usually began their announcement with "fear not"...

Actually the angels said it because they were awesome and scary in power, so that the viewers would settle down and listen to the message rather than fearing the messenger. Just like evolutionists when hearing truths from a intelligent design proponent. It sacres them so they attack the messenger rather than listening to the message.

Anyway, the people that teach fear the most are usually preachers as they fear their flocks might get personal faith and then not need them nor contribute to them and the preachers needs. But the Lord does say fear not, because faith is the opposite of fear. If you step out in fear on the principles of the Lord, they work.

You dont have to fear false science and false principles and false people, if you have chosen right and its the time and place, go forward in faith rather than fear.

Fear not true science, all science points to the Lord and his principles. Why because he created science, and Math. Dont fear math, understand it, use it to build your faith.

Dont let evolutionists and false teachers and preachers destroy your faith and your truths. Get to the basics and gain faith by experiencing and testing out faith in the real world. Leave theories to the geeks and the dreamers and the unreal. Ground yourself in real life and in real principles.

Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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Davidjay 
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Message 8 of 37 (808218)
05-09-2017 9:11 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by Davidjay
05-09-2017 9:05 AM


Re: Faith comes from doing, not theorising
Faith is not some cover-up and bush to hide behind, when the heathen spout their doctrines and intimidations. Faith is an experience you have gone through and come out KNOWING that the principle you followed is true and works.

Faith is not some sort of magical defense mechanism when you are attacked. Real faith comes from the many times you have stood your ground and tested the Lord and the Lord has come through for you according to your real faith.

Its not trumpted up faith or ego faith or group faith, its real faith, in really knowing what you are standing on is REAL.

The word Faith to church Christians means in most cases very little, because they have never taken the Lord at His word and experienced the faith walk. They have never given much, let alone all to the Lord, so they usually (but not in all cases) are very weak in faith and so hide behind church systems and a very loose knowledge of what Jesus actually said or did....let alone experiencing these truths for themselves.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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Davidjay 
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Message 10 of 37 (808222)
05-09-2017 9:33 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by Stile
05-09-2017 9:19 AM


Re: Jesus can solve all fears as in All
No, Jesus cannot remove ALL fears

Sorry Bro, I have never heard anyone suggest Jesus can only solve a few fears and not all fears. For suggesting there are some things Jesus can't do, is surely limiting the ALMIGHTY. For by mere definition, ALL MIGHTY means all mighty and all powerful.

But if you mean, we humans have to avail of His power to remove fears, then I can agree with you, and that means any and all. Agreed ?

But the main problem is that people have not given all to the Lord and followed his directives in forsaking all to know all and know how to follow. Half timers have a very difficult time having faith because they haven;t followed the full time instructions.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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Davidjay 
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Message 12 of 37 (808227)
05-09-2017 9:52 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by Stile
05-09-2017 9:33 AM


Re: How to get FAITH
Agreed Stile...

as nothing is impossible with the Lord.... but lets see where true faith comes from ...

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Getting Faith is not some mystery, it is really quite simple. Faith comes by hearing the Word of God as the Lord’s WORD
says....Faith comes by hearing and hearing from the WORD of God. (Romans 10:17)

You can’t get it any other way. It comes from the Lord’s direct Voice or reading the direct words of the Lord through His
prophets and prophetesses. Or if you can’t read, then someone has to read it to you, or listen to it on a tape or somehow see or
listen to His literal words.Because just as his Literal Words brought the physical world into being, so only His literal words can
bring FAITH into being in our hearts. It is a real seed that only comes by hearing or seeing and then believeing.

There is no other way to get Faith. It is not magical and you can’t pray for more without listening to the Lord’s Words. You
can’t pray up your faith, you can only believe more of the Lord’s direct WORDS. and quite fighting it, just let them sink down
into your heart as the Lord said. For His Words are powerful and He means what He said, so just believe it literally, and you get
more FAITH

So sometimes you need to get off your knees in so called desperate prayer and turn on the lights and read His WORD, and
after hearing from the Lord and putting the Lord first, then surely more of our prayers will be heard and answered. Therefore
we all need to stop looking for signs and wonders to increase our Faith, and just simply read or listen and believe, and then
act on the seed of truth we have accepted, to see it grow. There is no such thing as lazy faith, it doesn’t come from us and our
inward search, it comes from our accepting the Lord’s words given to us all. I mean you name the category if we want
STRENGTH, then look up all the words on strength in the Bible, or go to an on-line concordance and punch in the word
STRENGTH, such as at http://www.khouse.org/blueletter

Ask the Holy Spirit to teach you and guide you, read what it says, and believe and you will get more strength. WHY
…because strength comes from the Lord and not ourselves. He is our strength and its not in our own might. Quite being macho
even if you are feminine, rely on the Lord and believe and you get STRENGTH.

And so it is with every subject, if you want it. Read about it, believe it, act on it, and you have it. Don't worry about your
inadequacies , overcome them by gaining Faith in the Lord.. It’s right before all of our eyes, so we all are responsible for our own
condition or lack of conditioning. So let’s get more FAITH and progress and get stronger in the Lord and in His LOVE, by
listening to His Voice through His WORDS.

Believe in the Lord and miracles can happen.....


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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Davidjay 
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Message 14 of 37 (808240)
05-09-2017 11:05 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by jar
05-09-2017 9:59 AM


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Edited by AdminPhat, : see above


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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Davidjay 
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Message 15 of 37 (808241)
05-09-2017 11:06 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by jar
05-09-2017 9:59 AM


Re: Jesus says "Don't wait for me to do it for you."
Jesus says, "If your ass falls in a crack on the Sabbath don't wait until the next day to pull it out and don't expect me to do it for you!"

Disrespectful writing, Jar, but at least you posted a truth in my opinion. The Lord is into us doing our part. Putting his truths into practice rather Him doing everything for us. We have to do our part before He can do the rest, that we can not do.

Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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Message 17 of 37 (808338)
05-10-2017 9:34 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by ringo
05-09-2017 1:03 PM


Re: Fear the message not the messenger
Yes, Ringo..... its a good point, that us humans, and those HEREIN should concentrate on the message rather than fearing and cowering away from the messenger. Same principle, study the concept, the principle, the facts, the revelations, the message, the math ... rather than trying to save face among their peers or congregation.

Stay objective rather than becoming subjective.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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