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Author Topic:   A Creationist Sues the Grand Canyon for Religious Discrimination
Tanypteryx
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Message 1 of 99 (809274)
05-17-2017 4:43 PM


A Creationist Sues the Grand Canyon for Religious Discrimination
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How did the Grand Canyon form? is a question so commonly pondered that YouTube is rife with explanations. Go down into the long tail of Grand Canyon videos, and you’ll eventually find at a two-part, 35-minute lecture by Andrew Snelling. The first sign this isn’t a typical geology lecture comes comes about a minute in, when Snelling proclaims, “The Grand Canyon does provide a testament to the biblical account of Earth’s history.
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Snelling is a prominent young-Earth creationist. For years, he has given lectures, guided biblical-themed Grand Canyon rafting tours, and worked for the nonprofit Answers in Genesis. (The CEO of Answers in Genesis, Ken Ham, is also behind the Creation Museum and the Ark Encounter theme park.) Young-Earth creationism, in contrast to other forms of creationism, specifically holds that the Earth is only thousands of years old. Snelling believes that the Grand Canyon formed after Noah’s floodand he now claims the U.S. government is blocking his research in the canyon because of his religious views.
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Exactly why the park did not grant Snelling’s application is, of course, now the subject of a lawsuit. His project did involve collecting a sizable number of rocks, which can invite more scrutiny. In an email to Snelling filed as part of the lawsuit, a park officer said the project was not granted because the type of rock he wanted to study can also be found outside of the Grand Canyon. The park solicited peer reviews from three mainstream geologists. One mentioned the rocks could be found elsewhere; all three overwhelmingly denounced the work as not scientifically valid, a criterion the park also uses to evaluate proposals. Snelling, who holds a Ph.D. in geology, did not disclose his Answers in Genesis affiliation, nor did he explicitly say he wanted to prove the Grand Canyon is young in his initial permit application, but the reviewers became aware of his reputation.

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Tanypteryx
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Message 6 of 99 (809314)
05-17-2017 7:16 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Davidjay
05-17-2017 6:41 PM


The Grand Canyon was caused by the receeding Floofdwaters of the worldwide flood, but thery dont want that discussed... or known or studied.
Well, whoever "thery" is, it doesn't matter what they want. The flood gets lots of discussion and we know it never actually happened.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Tanypteryx
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Message 48 of 99 (809465)
05-18-2017 12:58 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by Faith
05-18-2017 12:35 PM


Re: Leonardo inadvertently proves the Flood
God is the God of science as well as everything else, like it or not.
Well, that's wrong. Science is a method of discovering how the Universe works. Your god keeps it all a secret and reveals nothing. You have deluded yourself into believing things that are clearly at odds with the evidence discovered by science that can be seen by anyone who wants to look.
As I have said numerous times before, your beliefs about geology and biology and evolution are full of holes you cannot explain, thousands of holes. Science is the way to explain them.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Tanypteryx
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Message 56 of 99 (809483)
05-18-2017 1:18 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by Faith
05-18-2017 1:00 PM


Re: Leonardo inadvertently proves the Flood
Funny how "science" has the biggest holes of all, the denial of the clear evidence of the strata and the fossils. Elephant in the room.
Well, that is something that you have demonstrated over and over..... that you don't know any science, while we pointed out to you obvious flaws in all of your arguments.
The clear evidence of the strata and fossils is that the earth has been undergoing geological processes for billions of years while life has been evolving into the diversity we see today. The sequence of layers and fossils is impossible to have been the result of your flood. In science we don't ignore evidence because it disagrees with beliefs or your bible.
When evidence disagrees with the bible, the bible is wrong, no matter what you believe.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Tanypteryx
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Message 81 of 99 (809556)
05-18-2017 11:31 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Tanypteryx
05-17-2017 4:43 PM


My own opinion on the lawsuit against Grand Canyon National Park is that it is purely a nuisance suit. The rock layers are accessible outside the park boundaries.
I was quite surprised that this topic got this much attention, although most was off topic.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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