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Tangle
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Message 9 of 99 (809322)
05-17-2017 7:31 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Dredge
05-17-2017 7:23 PM


Re: Flood disproved
Dredge writes:
Satan, the father of lies, will use and abuse science in an attempt to "disprove" any part of God's Word. He manages to deceive a lot of folks, but not all of them .. and certainly not the Elect.
Well that's jolly handy. Now I understand all those one line bumper sticker shrug-offs, you think science is done by satan....
What a wierd world you live in.

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"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
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Message 33 of 99 (809425)
05-18-2017 11:40 AM
Reply to: Message 30 by Faith
05-18-2017 11:27 AM


Re: Leonardo inadvertently proves the Flood
Faith writes:
If the book is known to be the word of the Creator God who made it all, what it says is the primary evidence, THE empirical evidence we must put above all other evidence.
You can't include the conclusion in the hypothesis.
This does not mean rejecting something in the world that is clearly a fact
That's exactly what it does mean. To be a Christian YEC all science from biology, physics, astronomy, geology, palaeontology, embryology, molecular genetics etc etc has to be abandoned. It all has to be wrong for you to be right. You in your armchair without any formal training peering at wiki pages against the entirety of science.
It's not working Faith.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien.
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 37 of 99 (809434)
05-18-2017 11:53 AM
Reply to: Message 34 by Faith
05-18-2017 11:45 AM


Re: Leonardo inadvertently proves the Flood
Faith writes:
I'll say it again: known facts have to be reconciled with the Bible, but the usual stuff pitted against the Bible isn't facts, it's interpretations.
And I'll say it again, you can't start with a conclusion - 'the bible is literally true'.
If you do, you inevitably fall flat on your face because the facts show that it isn't. If the facts confirmed that the bible was true, there would be no argument. We're only here because it's impossible for your conclusion to be correct AND conform to the evidence as we have it.
This is why you are failing in every field of study to make your conclusion fit - it doesn't because it's very obviously wrong. You just can't make it fit anywhere in any scientific discipline.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien.
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 41 of 99 (809444)
05-18-2017 12:16 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by Faith
05-18-2017 12:05 PM


Re: Leonardo inadvertently proves the Flood
Faith writes:
Being disagreed with by all the evos at EvC proves nothing against anything I've said.
You're not being disagreed with by people at EVC, you're being disagreed with by the entire scientific community in almost all of its disciplines. We're only reporting the science, they're not personal beliefs.
What's even whackier is that creationists also disagree with you. This should give you a clue if nothing else does that your ideas are totally subjective.
I consider my record to be very good as far as pinning down both the Flood and the main problem with evolution goes.
Of course you do - the more important question is does anyone else? You have proven over and over that convincing yourself is very easy.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien.
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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