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Author Topic:   Micro v. Macro Creationist Challenge
NoNukes
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Message 189 of 252 (816713)
08-09-2017 7:27 PM
Reply to: Message 188 by CRR
08-09-2017 6:41 PM


Re: Non homologous genes between humans and chimps
You have already stated that the best explanation is gene loss in the chimp lineage, but not in the human lineage.

Why wouldn't we expect something like a roughly equal amount of diversion between the species, assuming that they have a common ancestor?


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NoNukes
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Message 235 of 252 (819186)
09-07-2017 5:44 PM
Reply to: Message 233 by CRR
09-07-2017 5:34 PM


Re: Genetic Differences
Those values do not appear to be rate values since there is no indication of a time period.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I was thinking as long as I have my hands up … they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking — they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey

We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World.

Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith

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NoNukes
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Message 239 of 252 (819308)
09-09-2017 9:14 AM
Reply to: Message 237 by CRR
09-07-2017 6:15 PM


Re: Genetic Differences
a) shows the numbers of losses and gains.
(b) shows the rates

There are no time units on graph b. I think you are making stuff up when you complain about rates being too high.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I was thinking as long as I have my hands up … they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking — they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey

We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World.

Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith

I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith


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NoNukes
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Message 242 of 252 (819422)
09-10-2017 7:57 PM
Reply to: Message 241 by CRR
09-10-2017 2:08 AM


Re: Genetic Differences
CRR writes:

a) Inferred gene gains (red) and losses (blue) in 8,877 gene families shared by 10 mammalian species are reported for each branch of the tree. (b) Number of gains (red) and losses (blue) per million years for each branch of the tree; human (H), chimpanzee (C), human and chimp (HC), orangutan (O), apes (A), rhesus macaque (M), apes and Old World monkeys (AO), marmoset (Cj), primates (P), mouse (S), rat (R), rodents (N), primates and rodents (PN), dog (D), horse (E), dog and horse (DE), cow (B) and Afrotheria (Af).

In order to determine a rate you need a change and a time period over which the change is measured. I understand that there are gains and losses. I don't see the time period in the original graphs, and your message responding to me does not show one either.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I was thinking as long as I have my hands up … they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking — they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey

We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World.

Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith

I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith


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