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Message 100 of 187 (811374)
06-07-2017 2:08 PM
Reply to: Message 99 by Taq
06-07-2017 1:41 PM


Re: Any designer is irrelevant.
When you make ID/creationism unfalsifiable, as you have done, then you have ceased asking questions and are refusing to refine the answer.
The whole concept of God is falsifiable. It was meant to be that way. Belief is a valid approach, however. Evidence in and of itself was never meant to be a slam-dunk answer to every question in life.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
"as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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Thugpreacha
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Message 101 of 187 (811375)
06-07-2017 2:14 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by Taq
06-07-2017 1:37 PM


Tricks or Treats
Now, you could argue that some tricksy deity just made everything look like it occurred through natural processes, but what would be the point?

Exactly. If God exists and is as powerful and far reaching as some believe, He would have no need to trick anybody.


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
"as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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Thugpreacha
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Message 102 of 187 (811376)
06-07-2017 2:20 PM
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06-06-2017 7:10 PM


Re: Any designer is irrelevant.
jar writes:

Designers really are so fantastically irrelevant that they are only useful as examples of how silly the concept of ID really is.

Keep in mind, folks that jar believes that GOD, if GOD exists, expects us to think, reason, and learn without falling back on Her as a copout....in regards to anything in our known reality.

He will, of course, argue that I am misrepresenting what he means.

Perhaps there really is little reason to bring up GOD in a Science thread.


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
"as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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Message 116 of 187 (822217)
10-21-2017 1:35 AM
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06-07-2017 10:26 PM


Re: Any designer is irrelevant.
Maybe I'm wrong. The concept is unprovable yet I suppose it is also unfalsifiable.

I think that jars point about designers being irrelevant is a bit pompous on our part, however.


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith :)

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