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Author Topic:   Exploring (mostly Cultural) Marxism in today's Left
Stile
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Message 16 of 381 (812835)
06-20-2017 1:20 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Faith
06-20-2017 7:53 AM


Faith writes:
I'm not sure how to approach this subject so I'm just throwing it out to see what kind of response it gets. As I said I can't really read the main documents but maybe I can learn more about them in whatever discussion comes about, but I know I do know enough already that my hatred can only get deeper with greater knowledge. I know it's going to be a bumpy ride, but I'm hoping participants will try to be civil and thoughtful and contribute meaningful thoughts.
I think you're getting hung up on political descriptions and sticking names on things to blame.
You seem to be against people entering the US and killing innocent people.
That's fantastic.
So denounce people entering the US and killing innocent people.
You would get a lot more agreement from others.
The problem begins when you think such a thing can be classified as "Islam."
Now you want to denounce people entering the US and killing innocent people... but instead of denouncing that... you say "Islam is terrible! Let's stop Islam!"
And that's the problem.
To you, Islam means people entering the US and killing innocent people.
However, to the vast majority of 'everyone else,' the term "Islam" includes a whole lot of other things that have nothing to do with people entering the US and killing innocent people.
All you have is a simple terminology, definition issue.
The correct course of action isn't to try and get people across the world to start using the definition of the term "Islam" that only makes sense to you and your local friends who all use it in the same way.
The correct course of action is to stop adding confusion to the issue with the term "Islam" and focus on denouncing "people entering the US and killing innocent people." That will get you a lot more agreement, and you can start to focus on solutions instead of sitting around in a pile of frustrating confusion because you're stuck in a political game of definitions.
Stop using terms like Islam, Leftist, Marxism and Oppressor.
No one else uses the same definitions for them as you do, and all it does is add extra baggage of confusion and dilutes the points you're trying to make.
Cut to the chase.
If you don't want people coming to the US and killing innocent people... then stick with that. All your perceived "political problems" will disappear.

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