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jar
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Message 9 of 68 (815920)
07-26-2017 11:33 AM


Yet another totally dishonest thread. Sheesh.
Please point to where there is any reference to oppressing Palestinians in the legislation.
You really need to stop telling fibs before none of the other children want to play with you.

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jar
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Message 32 of 68 (816039)
07-28-2017 9:09 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by NoNukes
07-28-2017 8:56 AM


We may learn that we have totally misunderstood the Constitution.
NoNukes writes:
Of course, it is unjust. It's also unconstitutional.
The first is true but the latter has not been established yet. Other laws have been examined but we have a new court now and this proposed law has not been tested or even passed. Considering recent DOJ positions and the makeup of the SCOTUS I think the Constitutional Guarantee that "The Rights of a business shall not be infringed" may well take precedence.

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jar
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Message 35 of 68 (816053)
07-28-2017 11:42 AM
Reply to: Message 33 by NoNukes
07-28-2017 9:49 AM


Re: We may learn that we have totally misunderstood the Constitution.
NoNukes writes:
Which way do you think this will cut? If an American business were to decide not to buy diamonds from Israel, or if a bunch of musicians decided to leave Israel off of their next tour, how do you think would the Supreme Court rule if the DOJ imposed a huge fine?
Unfortunately I have to say that at this time I don't know what the Courts (including the Supreme Court) will decide or even if they would agree to hear such a case.
NoNukes writes:
As for the DOJ, I am not overly concerned about their opinion. It is that of the Supreme Court, that rightly or wrongly settles the issue.
The issue is if the DOJ is on record allowing businesses to discriminate almost at will would loss of business with Israel be significant enough to offset the advantages of freedom to discriminate.
The DOJ has now gone on record that the only place discrimination might be an issue is when the sex as recorded on the birth certificate is involved and we already know there is discrimination in wages between men and women that the courts have ignored forever.
Right now I believe the only saving factor out there is that today's Conservatives really are the bumbling bunch of idiots they appear to be and will most likely continue to implement the truly ignorant nonsense like keeping transgenders out of the military, guarding the bathroom door, rolling back same sex marriages, destroying health care, robbing pensions, Social Security and Medicare, destroying education and building the laughing stock border wall instead of doing the one thing that would assure their power base for generations.

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jar
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Message 50 of 68 (816128)
07-29-2017 8:24 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by Faith
07-29-2017 8:18 PM


some reasons that the Palestinians might get upset.
Faith writes:
I don't get any impression that any of it was motivated by the desire to displace the Arabs, but entirely by persecution in their countries of origin. The first waves were from Russia, then one from Poland and Hungary, and then just before WWII those fleeing Nazism began to enter. About this time the Palestinian Arabs began to complain and become violent, and the British laid restrictions on Jewish immigration as a result.
Kinda like you wanting Trump to place restrictions on immigrants to the US?
The people of the area saw their land being over run by foreigners who did speak the language, understand the customs, follow the local laws and traditions.
Worse, they saw the European Great Powers controlling their government, controlling the infrastructure, making the laws, exploiting the resources...
Edited by jar, : fix sub-title

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