There is massive objective empirical evidence that the earth is very very very old, so much that it is easy to compile numerous dating methods that rely on simple counting to validate the dates, and numerous enough to show consilience of results from the different methods, consilience that would not be possible unless they all measure the same thing: accurate old age.
And in those various methods is evidence that a global flood never happened in their age range ... covering millions of years
the "Prometheus" tree(2) (aka WPN-114), with a measured age of 4862 when cut down in 1964 for research, however this is a minimum age because the core of the tree is missing, giving it a minimum germination date of 2898 BCE (but likely older).
the "Schulman's" tree(3) (my name for the tree because Edmund Schulman took the core samples and he was a pioneer in dendrochronology in the area), with a minimum germination date of 3051 BCE
the "Ancient Sentinels"(4) - standing dead trees, as old as 7,000 years, however we have no information on their germination or termination dates at this point.
The "Methuselah" tree is older by ~500 years The "Prometheus" tree was ~530 years older when cut down over 50 years ago The "Schulman" tree is older by ~600 years
Dead wood lying on the ground is older yet, and it did not float away in any global flood.
Science never absolutely proves things, but it does disprove things. Things that are false or invalid. The evidence of these three trees alone disproves a global flood in the last 5,000 years, and make any belief in such a flood within that time period a laughable delusional fantasy.
And that is just the beginning of what the objective empirical evidence of age shows.
A young earth? Forgetaboutit. Also disproved by trees.
The earth is not flat The earth is not the center of the solar system The earth is not the center of the milky way galaxy The earth is not the center of the universe
The earth is very, very, very old: get used to it.
No, what you have is a delusional belief that you have god/s word/s, and a conviction (delusion) that you are always right no matter what the evidence shows.
What I have is freely available objective empirical evidence of lots of time into the past with no evidence of a global flood, evidence that could not exist if there had been a flood and evidence that could not exist if the earth were young ... unless your god/s is a joker, a prankster, a maker of fraudulent evidence, a god more interested in fooling people than helping them. That is what the evidence shows faith.
There was no global flood for millions of years into the past
If the evidence lies, then it is your god/s that made the lies.
Explain the consilience of results from multiple different sources and systems of measuring the age of the 14C samples that makes this composite graph ... if you can.
Denial is not an explanation.
Saying the evidence lies means the whole world is lies and illusion, and - if you believe it was created by god/s - that means the god/s created lies and illusions and not one piece of reality. Everything.
Re: Only the Flood could possibly explain these things
the depth is easily explained by all the dirt that was stirred up by the forty days and nights of heavy worldwide rain, on land and in the oceans. That's a lot of dirt to get sorted into sediments and redeposited. ...
And that doesn't explain the alternating layers of diatoms and clay silt in Lake Suigetsu ... and can't.
And that doesn't explain the alternating layers of foramins and silt in the Cariaco Basin (salt water) ... and can't
... That's another thing: the "time period" explanation really can't explain the different separated sediments in the Geo Column, a gigantic sandstone, a gigantic limestone etc etc.;....
And that doesn't explain the sorting of radioactive isotopes by age and depth. If it was "stirred up" the would be evenly distributed throughout the sediment layers.
And that doesn't explain uranium halos or any of the mountains of evidence for an old earth.
It doesn't explain the Grand Canyon horseshoe bend formation or the different ages of speleothems in the canyon caves.
It doesn't explain squat.
... . In any case, it's easy to explain a Flood that covered the entire world making layer after layer of different sediments and, really, nothing else can.
Except the actual geological processes that we continue to observe going on today.
Yes I know early geologists expected geology to confirm the Bible but their imagination was too limited to see that it really does; that's why they went with the so-called evidence of an ancient earth, which hardly deserves the term "evidence" at all, since until radiometric dating methods came along it was just a lot of stuff like Hutton's assessment of Siccar Point ..
Yes the evidence of relative age and the fact that fossils and sedimentary layers do - not - support a global flood, but many local and repeated floods. Blindingly obvious except to the willingly blind.
Leonardo da Vince figured it out, and he is not someone I would call of limited imagination nor someone who could look at evidence and not figure out that clam shells in hillsides were not evidence of a global flood, but that they used to be sea floor.
But that's not all, now we do have radiometric dating methods and they have been confirmed to be accurate and they do in fact confirm that the geological evidence shows the earth is indeed very very very old.
... and the unconformity occurred after all the strata were laid down, just as similar formations occurred elsewhere after the Flood.
Yes strata just decides to turn over in their graves because flood.
The standard theory can't be known either. ...
Curiously the "standard theory" can explain all the evidence ... all the evidence.
Your fantasy cannot explain any of it ... any of it.
Your arguments are laughable.
Uranium halos show the earth is very, very, very old. It doesn't take dating methods to show the earth is very, very, very old, because there is such an overwhelming mountain of evidence it is old, evidence that YECies - and faith - are incapable of refuting. All they can do is deny, say god-did-it with magic flying carpet water, and then run away.
It's tiresome to see these same thread-bare arguments regurgitated on every thread that brings up the flood or the age of the earth, arguments that have been refuted and refuted and refuted.
They might be entertaining for a while, but it gets old, very, very, very old ... and so tiresome.
There is not just a point but rather a necessity. It is essential to continue presenting reality when fantasies are presented as fact; if for no other reason then the fact that someone who is honest and not willfully ignorant may well read the posts and realize that what they have been told is utter nonsense.
Indeed, when participants are talking past each other, as is almost always the case with faith, then the audience are those behind them in the wings.