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ringo Member Posts: 19517 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 2.9 |
The keyword is "created". If you believe a creator was necessary to the process, you're a creationist. To be fair though, we most often use the word for the worst kind of science-deniers. You're only the second or third worst kind. ![]()
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Taq Member Posts: 8519 Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
"It's really amazing how anything anybody says can, and will, be obliterated by the endless destroying machine of EvC. Truth isn't the concern really, just demolishing the opposition, that's all, . . ."--Faith Like I said before, you perfectly describe your own posts.
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Percy Member Posts: 20739 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 2.2
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Your models never survive scrutiny. What typically happens is that you invent excuses to abandon discussion amidst a storm of threats and insults, most recently in the MACROevolution vs MICROevolution - what is it?:
This thread will end the same way - you'll eventually invent some excuses and abandon it, as you've done so many times before. --Percy
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PaulK Member Posts: 17166 Joined: Member Rating: 3.6 |
quote: Except that your "model" doesn't explain the sorting. That is why you keep inventing excuses to ignore it. So jar was telling the truth and you are dishonestly trying to cover up that fact. quote: It's not exactly good evidence, in fact it is pretty much worthless as evidence for God. Your evaluation is based on a doctrine which assumes that the Bible is absolutely true ignoring even the internal evidence to the contrary. When you start with a question-begging and false assumption you can't hope to get a reasonable answer.
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Faith ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 673 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I can say it again.
The evidence is so obvious for the Flood it pre-empts the supposed order of the fossils, which is an ililusion anyway. And the Bible is evidence of God, that's a big part of what it's intended for whether it persuades you or not.
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Faith ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 673 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The reasons I gave for my actions are true and sufficient, your lame mind-reading is false, insulting and stupid.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17166 Joined: Member Rating: 3.6
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quote: Even if that were true it only proves me right. You do not have an explanation for the ordering. jar told the truth and you called it an "utter lie" - even though you know it to be true. quote: If you want to call your God incompetent that's your problem. The fact remains that the Bible is pretty much worthless as evidence of God - and anyone who intended it to be otherwise failed dismally.
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Faith ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 673 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
the Bible is the only source of witnessed evidence of miracles that only God could do, in both the Old and the New Testaments.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17166 Joined: Member Rating: 3.6 |
quote: And that is a big part of the problem. Miracle stories are a lot more common than actual miracles, and when the stories come from biased and superstitious people, often far removed from the actual events - let alone when the story is essentially fiction anyway - you haven't got anything like good enough evidence to accept a miracle. I don't want to go off-topic by pushing it too much - but if you really think you have a good case feel free to start a topic on any example you like. Just remember that your idea of a good case often isn't. For instance your guess about a map you can't even read properly is hardly solid evidence, no matter how strongly you believe it.
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Percy Member Posts: 20739 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 2.2
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If you do say so yourself.
So in this thread you're not going to be insulting and offensive? Starting when, pray tell? You'll abandon this thread just like you've abandoned all the rest. In the meantime, why don't you say something on topic and provide evidence for the Flood. --Percy
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Faith ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 673 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Sure. Strata and fossils.
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ringo Member Posts: 19517 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 2.9
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That's kinda like saying the smoking gun in your hand is proof of your innocence.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17166 Joined: Member Rating: 3.6 |
Well what can we expect of someone who calls a statement they know to be true an "utter lie" ?
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caffeine Member (Idle past 253 days) Posts: 1800 From: Prague, Czech Republic Joined: |
Apologies if this point was made already. I skimmed most of the thread because it's quite tedious.
Animals do sometime seek shelter in human-made structures (like, in this case, cars). That's because humans build structures to protect from the elements. Animals also seek shelter in structures not made by humans. To use an example that should be familiar in the US (at least in some parts), all sorts of animals hang around in gopher burrows. Gophers build burrows to protect themselves from the heat and from predators in the desert. Other animals take advantage. Humans build structures to protect themselves from all sorts of climatic challenges. Other animals take advantage, 12 pages? Edited by caffeine, : No reason given.
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jar Member Posts: 33887 From: Texas!! Joined: Member Rating: 2.8
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How does a flood sort items into millions of recurring layers of fine particles and then coarser particles? How does the same flood also deposit layers of salt hundreds of feet thick then layers of rock then more layers of salt yet more hundreds of feet thick then more rock? How does the same flood sort radioactive samples by age? How does the same flood sort biological samples as found in reality? How does the same flood deposit animal tracks? How does the same flood deposit a layer and then erode a layer and then deposit another layer over the area eroded? Model, mechanics, method, process, procedure... Edited by jar, : appalin spallin
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