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Message 23 of 894 (818548)
08-30-2017 8:51 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by Faith
08-30-2017 6:42 AM


I don't know who George Birkett is but I'd bet he isn't God or Moses or Samuel or any of God's chosen prophets.

Are you one of them?


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Message 92 of 894 (818841)
09-03-2017 12:07 PM
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09-03-2017 11:51 AM


Re: On topic
You have evidence that one animal sought shelter and no evidence that it chose that shelter because of humans. That's all. Your wild extrapolation to all animals is unjustified.

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Message 120 of 894 (818928)
09-04-2017 8:45 AM
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09-03-2017 11:06 PM


Re: Close enough to the topic
Imagine what 40 days and nights would have done, globally.

Easy. There would be no life on Earth. There's no place the water could have been that wouldn't make the Earth uninhabitable just by being there or by falling.

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Message 121 of 894 (818929)
09-04-2017 8:46 AM
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09-03-2017 11:07 PM


Re: On topic
No, we have multiple evidence that animals do this often.

Let's see that evidence. And define "often".


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Message 123 of 894 (818931)
09-04-2017 8:48 AM
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09-03-2017 11:19 PM


Re: On topic
Still no one has provided any kind of explanation as to why, or how animals have evolved in to this behavior

Still no one has provided any reason to believe such behavior is widespread.

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Message 138 of 894 (819012)
09-05-2017 8:03 AM
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09-04-2017 10:46 PM


Re: On topic
Assertions are not evidence.

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Message 139 of 894 (819013)
09-05-2017 8:09 AM
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09-04-2017 10:48 PM


Re: Close enough to the topic
Thermodynamics. You may not realize that steam and water were the drivers of the industrial revolution. We know a lot about water in various states. If the water was in the atmosphere the temperature and pressure required to keep it there would make the Earth uninhabitable. If the water came from outside the atmosphere the heat released by loss of potential energy would make the Earth uninhabitable. Except, of course, for a few thermophilic bacteria.

Sensitivity Studies on Vapor Canopy Temperature Profiles
Water and Vapor and Noah's Flood


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Message 263 of 894 (819375)
09-10-2017 8:51 AM
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09-09-2017 8:08 PM


Re: The seas came in and the seas went out (repeatedly)

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Message 264 of 894 (819376)
09-10-2017 8:55 AM
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09-10-2017 7:16 AM


Re: The seas came in and the seas went out (repeatedly)
Yeah, $400/year is ridiculous.

Imgur is pretty good.


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Message 271 of 894 (819388)
09-10-2017 1:53 PM
Reply to: Message 266 by Faith
09-10-2017 10:54 AM



I'm repeating either that there is evidence for the Flood or the evidence itself in this series of posts

I'm not interested in this thread, and all I am doing is responding to other posts

Pro tip: it is much easier to keep your story straight when you stick to the truth. Making stuff up with no attempt at consistency leads faceplants such as the above.


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Message 286 of 894 (819415)
09-10-2017 6:48 PM
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09-10-2017 4:45 PM


If the context requires that you STATE your argument, the context requires that you DISCUSS and DEFEND your statement.

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Message 330 of 894 (819490)
09-11-2017 6:34 PM
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09-11-2017 5:15 PM


Re: There are a large percentage of people that believe this
THE Flood would have torn up the entire planet and rearranged all of it.

Yup.

And that's precisely what we don't see. We do see order and properties incompatible with tearing up and rearranging.

Your unsupported assertions born of ignorance notwithstanding.


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Message 347 of 894 (819516)
09-12-2017 9:25 AM
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09-12-2017 7:34 AM


Re: The evidence says otherwise
Don't know if you're aware of this, but there's a lake in Sweden with 9,000-odd varves that are still forming today. As you know one of the alleged issues with Suigetsu is that the varves aren't forming today.

Validating a Swedish varve chronology using radiocarbon, palaeomagnetic secular variation, lead pollution history and statistical correlation

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We use statistical correlation of palaeomagnetic secular variation (PSV) curves from a varved Holocene lake sediment sequence in west central Sweden (Lake Kälksjön) against those of a Fennoscandian master stack (FENNOSTACK) to correct for an apparent error in the varve chronology. Additional correlation between a lead pollution-derived chronology for the last 2000 years corroborates the PSV results. Use of the FENNOSTACK palaeomagnetic master curve reveals no significant difference in duration between large-scale features from ∼2500 to ∼8000 cal. yrs BP. Statistical correlation, however, implies that 270 years are missing from the younger part (8000 cal. yrs BP). A similar comparison between the PSV-determined ages and calibrated bulk radiocarbon ages suggests that the sediments of mid-Holocene age contain substantial amounts of old carbon, probably of soil origin, which causes bulk sediment-calibrated mean 14C ages to be up to 850 years older than the corrected varve chronology, which extends to 9193 ± 186 cal. yrs BP. This study highlights both the use of statistical correlation as a technique for detecting errors between chronologies, and the importance of validating incremental chronologies with more than one independent method.

PM me and email address and I can send you the paper.


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Message 485 of 894 (819699)
09-13-2017 9:47 PM
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09-13-2017 9:26 PM


Re: Again, the Geo Column shows the absurdity of the OE/ToE
DEAL WITH THE POSTS YOU REFER ME TO LATER.

Shortly after the Rapture, no doubt.


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Message 504 of 894 (819720)
09-14-2017 8:02 AM
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09-14-2017 7:46 AM


Re: Millions of aternating layers Faith
Galatians 6:7

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