Evidence of the flood

We believe you.And that is a perfect example of why Creationists should never be allowed in a position where evidence or honesty based decisions would be needed.

And that is why you could never be trusted in any position that requires evidence based decision making or honesty.

What you are doing is basing everything on lies; lies about the Bible, lies about God, lies about reality. You market a version of Christianity that has lies as its foundation.

I know she is not lying about what she and many others believe. I have mentioned the Christian Cult of Ignorance at least once before IIRC.That does not change the fact that it is a system based on lies; lies about the Bible, lies about God, lies about reality. If you want any evidence of Satanic influence you need look no further than the Christianity you describe.

Yet what does the evidence show?George Washington and Thomas Jefferson and Henry VIII and James I&VI were all real people who really lived. But when we read about them we are not really reading about them but rather a caricature of them through the eyes of the author of the story.Jesus in the Bible stories is the same thing. We are not reading about Jesus but rather Jesus as a caricature reflecting the image the author of the story creates. The reality is that Jesus if Jesus existed was neither the Jesus of Paul, the Jesus of whoever wrote the Gospel of John, the Jesus of Mark or Matthew or the people who told tales to Luke.Jesus reality is a human, with human traits, as ignorant of reality as everyone else of his era, a Jew raised in the Jewish Traditions and mythos.And even if Jesus believed the flood actually happened, he was simply ignorant of what has been learned since then.AbE: Wrong question. We can never know a reason so the question is a waste of time.Right question: Why would or should anyone ever trust such a deceitful dishonest, genocidal God?Edited by jar, : see AbE:

And that is a great example of lie based theology. What that says is "Ignore what the Bible actually says!". Believe what you are told not what honesty and reality confirm.

You may not believe it but we even have floods today and can actually examine the evidence a flood leaves.

Then I'm sure you can present the model, method, mechanism, process or procedure that would explain how your flood could do any of the things we see in reality.Actually and honestly I'm sure you can't and won't and will never do so since the idea that there was a world-wide flood at any time that humans existed has been refuted and no honest person can possibly believe such nonsense.The only way people believe such utter crap is by being willfully ignorant and willfully dishonest.

Oh, you can and do complain.What you can't do is explain how your flood can sort the geology as we find it in reality, sort the biological samples as we find them in reality, sort radioactive elements, how it can totally miss societies, cultures and local technologies that exist before, and after your imaginary flood, totally fail to flood Egypt or why the Bible has two mutually exclusive flood myths, how it fails to disturb tracks and casts and nests and rooted trees and downed trees or any of the things that really and truly exist outside of fantasies.

If that were actually true Faith you can provide links to the posts in this thread where you provided evidence.It is reality that decrees you are wrong.

Someone might well think that but if so that simply affirms utter dishonesty about the Bible as will as reality.If someone is honest about the Bible then the truth is that it's not all about Jesus, it contains contradictions and factual errors and even contains two mutually exclusive flood tales.

The fact that there are many, many Christians who do believe in Jesus shows that Ken Ham is simply trying to put ten pounds of shit in a five pound bag and can't figure out why his shoes stink.The man is not even a successful con except with those who really really really want to be conned.

Faith does produce evidence but simply not very good evidence and certainly unreliable evidence.For example, consider witness testimony.An identified, verified witness is a more reliable source then an anonymous witness.Multiple witness accounts that agree is more reliable than a single witness.Witness accounts that can then be corroborated by physical evidence would be more reliable than uncorroborated witness testimony.Based on those facts consider the Bible Flood.First, almost everything in the Bible is anonymous; the author is unknown. Specifically the Flood stories are both attributed to the same author yet there is no evidence that the author ever even existed and the two stories show that if there was one author then the author changed the testimony.There are at least two contradictory and mutually exclusive accounts of the Biblical Flood and the testimony is all jumbled up together. So even though we have two witnesses or two stories from one witness the testimony is contradictory. Even if one was right the other would be wrong and based on the testimony it is impossible to determine if either is factual.That requires the two tales to be tested against physical evidence.Absolutely none of the physical evidence supports either testimony and all of the physical evidence specifically shows that neither testimony is factually correct.So Faith does present evidence but it is the weakest, most unreliable possible evidence and reality precludes any evidence she has presented from being correct.

How does your flood deposit a column of millions of layers of fine silt alternating with coarse silt.Millions of layers Faith. And you only have at most 365 days to accomplish that miracle.What is the model, method, process, procedure or mechanism that allows your magic flood to deposit a column of millions of layers of fine silt alternating with coarse silt.Did I mention it has to deposit millions of alternating fine silt then coarse silt then fine silt layers?You still have not presented the model, method, process, procedure or mechanism that allows your magic flood to deposit a column of millions of layers of fine silt alternating with coarse silt and if your flood cannot do that, it never happened.Oh, and the fine silt is so fine it requires still water over an extended period of time.Model, method, process, procedure, mechanism Faith.

How does your flood deposit a column of millions of layers of fine silt alternating with coarse silt.Millions of layers Faith. And you only have at most 365 days to accomplish that miracle.What is the model, method, process, procedure or mechanism that allows your magic flood to deposit a column of millions of layers of fine silt alternating with coarse silt.Did I mention it has to deposit millions of alternating fine silt then coarse silt then fine silt layers?You still have not presented the model, method, process, procedure or mechanism that allows your magic flood to deposit a column of millions of layers of fine silt alternating with coarse silt and if your flood cannot do that, it never happened.Oh, and the fine silt is so fine it requires still water over an extended period of time.Model, method, process, procedure, mechanism Faith.When will you present the Model, method, process, procedure or mechanism Faith?