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FYI, critical thinking means criticizing your own thinking too, not just everybody else's.

I have reason to believe that Vallee is less than trustworthy, and finding patterns in folklore is hardly unknown. Even with the supposed canals there were a number of people who though that they saw them - and others who disagreed.But, even ignoring that, patterns in fairy tales need not be explained by fairy tales being true.

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You have plenty of evidence that I don't agree with most of you here, which is not the same thing

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We have plenty of evidence that you aren’t much of a critical thinker. And in fact we have examples of you objecting to critical thinking.

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Ha ha. Nobody gets it. Oh well.

Critical thinking is not about being critical of things. Sheesh.

And I’ve already given reasons why that might be.

If there is some reason why we should agree with whatever ridiculous falsehoods you spout I’ve yet to hear it.If you want examples of your complete failure as a critical thinker I can post them.Given the topic drift here, there’s an oldie-but-goodie right here Message 152. It makes it look as if your idea of critical thinking is just agreeing with your opinions without any critical analysis whatsoever.

How that is an example of anything related to critical thinking is beyond me.However, I keep wondering why you seem to have a problem with criticism of the Jesuits, like it isn't anything about the evidence, it's just that you simply personally object to criticizing the Jesuits. That's the way it seems. Are you unaware that they were known for assassinations and attempted assassinations in Europe and even successfully assassinated a Pope? They tried to blow up the English Parliament and the King in that day with it, and supposedly all England still celebrates their failure. Why is it so hard to consider that maybe they had something to do with Lincoln's assassination?: Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

The only known connection between the Jesuits and the Gunpowder Plot is that Father Garnet may have known of the plot from information heard during confessions which of course is no indication that the Jesuits played any role in the planning or execution of the Gunpowder Plot.Edited by jar, : applin spallin

Until recently the song sung on Guy Fawkes Day named the Jesuits as behind the plot and Fawkes as a Jesuit agent. That line has been removed. It's also hard to find references to the Jesuit instigation of the plot at Google, must be because the Jesuits themselves are working hard to keep it all cleaned up for their image.The Jesuit Order was founded to be the spearhead of the Catholic Counterreformation, in which service they've always worked to bring down Protestant governments and undermine Protestant influence in the schools and in every other way they can. They've never given up that effort and never will..Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Your reasoning is ample evidence of your critical thinking skills, such as they are. You don't just say they can manifest as demons. Your claim is that they did so. That's not Biblical.Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

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How that is an example of anything related to critical thinking is beyond me.

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You claim that your assessment is the properly critical one. And yet you never go beyond assertion. Of course there was no actual critical thinking on your part. That’s the point.

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However, I keep wondering why you seem to have a problem with criticism of the Jesuits, like it isn't anything about the evidence, it's just that you simply personally object to criticizing the Jesuits

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I do ? I think you mean that I don’t trust conspiracy theories. And that I’m not an extreme anti-Catholic bigot. Another failure of critical thinking on your part.

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Are you unaware that they were known for assassinations and attempted assassinations in Europe and even successfully assassinated a Pope?

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I’m aware that there are accusations against them. Some of them may even be saner than Chiniquy’s. However the word of someone with a love of extreme anti-Catholic propaganda is hardly convincing. If you have good evidence of any - and not just conspiracy theories - start a thread.

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Why is it so hard to consider that maybe they had something to do with Lincoln's assassination?

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It is very hard to believe that they were motivated by the failures of the defamation case against Chiniquy. That makes no sense at all. Aside from that we need actual evidence. Which you have failed to produce.

Again Faith, even if that were true it is not evidence of a Jesuit Plot. Again Faith, that is just another example of you not thinking critically and simply accepting dogma and confirmation bias. And so you add yet more unsupported assertions and the dogma from your cult.Faith. it is posts like that which make it nearly impossible for any rational person to accept anything you post whether about Christianity, Foods, Health, the Bible, or any other subject.

I find the failure of critical thinking at EvC in general to be well represented in the last couple of posts. Anti-conspiracy bias is no example of critical thinking, just kneejerk dogma in itself.The best evidence against the Jesuits and the Vatican is found in books written before the twentieth century because there's been a concerted effort to purge such writings from the public arena since then, replacing it with tons of lying Catholic propaganda. There are still some good sources out there though, along with the old books, for anyone who is interested. I've listed some of them in the margin of my blog on the subject HERE. Sorry, the general tenor of the discussion doesn't inspire me to supply detailed information. And besides of course this is way off topic anyway. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.