Message 586 of 606 (830485) 03-31-2018 11:29 AM

Reply to: Message 564 by Phat 03-28-2018 3:26 AM

Oh no. There are reputable people working on diet-based approaches to treating diabetes. I don't dispute that and never have.

Did you even read the study you cite? None of those patients were even on insulin.

Mutate and Survive

Message 587 of 606 (830486) 03-31-2018 11:40 AM

Reply to: Message 584 by Phat 03-31-2018 9:47 AM

There's nothing to argue. Idon't dispute that diabetes can be treated by diet.

You haven't presented anything to refute. I don't argue bare links or Youtube videos.

I didn't say it did. You claimed, quite wrongly, that Rosedale wasn't selling anything. I pointed out that he was and that he is planning on re-entering the supplement industry.

You haven't presented anything to refute.

What do you want me to say? Fung seems more sensible than Rosdale, sure.

I have no idea whether he practises or not, but Mercola is a qualified osteopathic doctor for whatever that's worth. He is still a quack. I have no opinion on Fung.

This is a man who will lie to your face and tell you that there are no drugs to reduce cancer risk when in fact there are many such drugs. Lies are not sound science.

Mutate and Survive

Message 588 of 606 (830517) 04-01-2018 12:01 PM

Reply to: Message 587 by Granny Magda 03-31-2018 11:40 AM

We all agree that diet is an individual issue. For me, the low carbohydrate approach is the best option. My Endocrinologist disagrees with me. In a sense, I am arguing against her. (I see her again Thursday)

Message 589 of 606 (830525) 04-02-2018 5:15 AM

Reply to: Message 588 by Phat 04-01-2018 12:01 PM

No we don't, that's a rediculous idea. We are omnivores, our bodies rely on us getting enough of the things we need to grow and stay healthy - carbohydrates, proteins, vitamins, fats etc etc. If we eat a varied diet of fruit, vegitables and meat we'll have everything we need and there's no need to even think about it.

If we start fadding about food and cut out chunks of a normal diet or eating far too much or eating some things far more than others we're going to have problems of one sort or another.

There are some people who have genetic or other conditions that means that they can't metabolise food properly and these people need supplements or other interventions but these are relatively rare and require medical advice.

To mess about with weird and wonderful snake oil diets is downright dangerous.

Message 591 of 606 (830536) 04-02-2018 12:23 PM

Reply to: Message 590 by Phat 04-02-2018 9:25 AM

No specific faddy diet works - they're ALL snake oil. The only thing that does work in the long run is eating less, eating better and breaking bad habbits.

I know nothing about this but NHS guidance seems sensible to me

quote:

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There's nothing you can't eat if you have type 2 diabetes, but you'll have to limit certain foods.
You should:
eat a wide range of foods – including fruit, vegetables and some starchy foods like pasta
keep sugar, fat and salt to a minimum
eat breakfast, lunch and dinner every day – don't skip meals
If you need to change your diet, it might be easier to make small changes every week.

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But if it was me I'd take advice from a couple of specialists rather thatn self-medicate.

Message 592 of 606 (830542) 04-02-2018 2:37 PM

Reply to: Message 588 by Phat 04-01-2018 12:01 PM

That is not an argument. That's just you asserting that your doctor is wrong because she could be wrong.

Message 593 of 606 (830550) 04-02-2018 5:35 PM

Reply to: Message 591 by Tangle 04-02-2018 12:23 PM

I will, therefore, inform them of what my diet will be, what my medications will be and in what doses. Their only job will be to monitor my results. If they don't accept my terms, they are fired and I shall find Doctors who understand the truth. Dont worry...I will have some Doctor monitoring my blood, but never again will I trust the established medical wisdom. It is simply wrong.

Message 595 of 606 (830564) 04-03-2018 8:59 AM

Reply to: Message 594 by Tangle 04-02-2018 7:25 PM

Except that our society at large is way out of balance regarding carbohydrates and processed foods. Diabetics (Type II) are specifically insulin resistant and in order to address the problem of insulin resistance, lowering carbohydrates and rebalancing the system is more of a priority than lowering blood sugar numbers by prescribing insulin. I would really rather discuss this in my own thread, however.

Some YouTube sources are also scientifically based, like the video that I posted in my thread on Caloric Restriction vs Endocrine System.

Despite your claims that it is magical quick-fix thinking, I see it as valid science and will adjust my diet accordingly. as for good luck I don't believe in luck.

Message 596 of 606 (830566) 04-03-2018 9:49 AM

Reply to: Message 595 by Phat 04-03-2018 8:59 AM

I know what you see it as Phat. But you have a better chance of being right if you go with mainstream medicine that has multiple pieces of research to support it.

You're full of contradictions. If you didn't believe in luck you wouldn't gamble - you'd know the game was rigged.

Message 600 of 606 (830742) 04-06-2018 8:16 AM

Reply to: Message 1 by Faith 09-02-2017 11:02 AM

First, it is wise that you recognize your subtle blogging/internet addiction. I wouldn't say that it is a major problem at your age unless it keeps you from doing other things more likely to help you regain physical mobility, mental stimulus, and emotional support. As POGO said, "we have met the enemy and he is us."

Find out everything that you can about severe arthritis, what specifically causes the pain, how it gets worse and what natural plant-based solutions make it any better. Don't ignore the medical solutions and prescriptions that your Doctors give you unless they also have documented and undesirable side effects to your overall health. Quality of life is overall the main concern here, and each of us deals with specific health issues unique to us.

RAZD has perhaps the toughest battle among us here at EvC, and I am sure that he is aware of every useful strategy that he can muster to fight his cancer and the discomforts that come along with it. Keep him in prayer. jar has his vertigo, you have your arthritis and a sluggish metabolism, and I have my Type II Diabetes, sleep apnea, and neural complications. We are all getting older, and though we will never be 30 again, we can be the best that we can realistically be for our respective ages.