The Tension of Faith

Or maybe Muhammad who is quoted as saying:

Again, that is simply utter stupidity.The proper response is to do what Jesus said and laugh at the Biblical Christians.AbE: and laugh at their God and their Satan and sell popcorn to those watching the farce.Edited by jar, : see AbE:

Or 1066 & All That that contains a memorable history of England, comprising all the parts you can remember, including 103 Good Things, 5 Bad Kings and 2 Genuine Dates.

Perhaps you can explain how anyone can know that any miracle happened?How does one "witness" a miracle?

Sorry Faith but there is no evidence there of any miracle. Sorry Faith, not only is there no evidence of a miracle there but it is also not what the story actually says. Have you ever read the Bible Faith?In fact there is no evidence of any miracle in any of your accounts. There may be things that cannot be explained but there is no evidence of a miracle.;You need to try again.

But even if tests showed the wine did turn into blood literally it is still not evidence of a miracle.

The whole idea of grape juice instead of wine is REALLY REALLY REALLY stupid.Now that that is out of the way, it would be evidence that not blood changed into blood but not of any miracle. It would go into the unexplained pile but only a simpleton would jump to "miracle" as though that explained anything.

Miracles are what we believe on faith alone is a miracle. They exist only within or imagination.The thing or act or vision may well exist but a miracle is only a name we create and assign.

Utter nonsense Faith.You might believe it is a miracle but there is no evidence for a miracle.Sorry Faith but claiming a miracle happened is only a figment of the imagination unless you can provide direct verifiable evidence of the process, procedure, model, method or mechanism.All you show are things YOU cannot explain; evidence of ignorance.

They may believe there was a miracle but that is not evidence of a miracle.

The point is that calling it a miracle explains nothing. All we would know is that tests showed the wine did turn into blood; not why or how it happened.Calling something a miracle is as silly as claiming Goddidit.Someone might believe it was a miracle but that is simply a belief, not evidence that it is a miracle whatever a miracle even is.We can, and historically we did, label many unexplained things miracles but in every case what we are actually doing is pleading ignorance.

So you claim. But the evidence over time has shown that what is believed to be impossible is in fact possible.It would still just be something we do not understand.

Too funny.So all you are saying is that YOU decided to call something not understood a miracle.Okay, if that makes you happy, go for it.But I still cannot see any evidence that a miracle happened.

Too funny.I will tell you I don't know if wine can be turned into blood. I know I don't know how to do it but if there was evidence that it happened my position would be "It happened but I don't know how!" not "It's a miracle."Sorry but you have not presented any reason to think it a miracle other then you believe it is impossible.

No, I would be left with an unexplained event. You might be left with a miracle but that does not mean I would be left with a miracle. Too funny.No, if it happened then it is certainly not impossible.