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Author Topic:   "The Flood" deposits as a sea transgressive/regressive sequence ("Walther's Law")
Thugpreacha
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Message 31 of 224 (820673)
09-25-2017 8:51 AM
Reply to: Message 30 by RAZD
09-25-2017 8:06 AM


Creation Science Vs Science
In defense of Faith, she is quite serious about her beliefs and does not see them as magic.
I have one question for both of you though. Can we agree that Creation Science starts with a conclusion whereas Science as taught traditionally starts with a Premise? Is this one of the basic differences?

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
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Thugpreacha
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Message 33 of 224 (820676)
09-25-2017 9:20 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by edge
09-25-2017 8:54 AM


Re: an altrnative time frame
There is no reason for this quantity of sediments to suddenly be ripped off the ocean floor and cast onto the continents. There is a reason that sediments accumulate where they do ... it's because they have reached a low energy environment and the eroded sediments can settle out in the ocean basins. So, why would they move back up-gradient to travel across the continent?
I'll play Devils Advocate. The YEC position(starting with a conclusion) is that the great flood happened(1) and that when the fountains of the deep opened, they deposited the sediments onto the continents.
Like this:
Animation of Great Flood
Personally, I don't believe it but won't dismiss it except to agree that IF this happened, God deliberately hid the evidence from skeptics...only believers in Biblical Literalism would ever consider the flood as truth.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
An atheist is someone who has no invisible means of support~Bishop Fulton J.Sheen

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Thugpreacha
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Message 76 of 224 (820756)
09-26-2017 3:02 PM
Reply to: Message 72 by Minnemooseus
09-26-2017 3:45 AM


Topic Focus
Moose writes:

Well, this topic has turned into a mess real fast. I guess that was my mistake, in opening up the topic just before I was going to have minimal internet time available for a couple of days.

No, this topic is informative and educational. My only advice would be to slow down and not overwhelm any readers. Faith has apparently stopped posting for awhile and without her here you have nobody to refute...keep the explanations brief and concise. (my 2 cents)

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
An atheist is someone who has no invisible means of support~Bishop Fulton J.Sheen

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Thugpreacha
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Message 207 of 224 (821489)
10-08-2017 3:08 PM
Reply to: Message 201 by RAZD
10-07-2017 11:35 AM


Re: The Faith pattern repeats?
It would appear that Faith is holding to her usual pattern of arguing repeatedly for her opinion, and when the evidence and arguments mount up she abandons the thread (usual personal persecution claims).

We can expect the same arguments on the next flood thread together with claims that she refuted all the arguments presented here.

Were I a Theologian representing Gods Word, even if I knew that it was 100% true, I would be doing a great disservice by avoiding using that as my final argument on any given scientific matter. Faith, if you disagree with the conclusions of the science, you have to explain why. You can't simply say that you disagree. If you feel that God is giving you wisdom as He gave the Prophets, say so. If you feel that people would see the truth if they only accepted Gods Word, say so. By ignoring all but 35 of 111 replies in this thread, 33 out of 64 in your own thread in Faith & Belief, and all but 168 of 399 in the evidence for the flood thread, you are not representing Jesus Christ honestly. I'm not pointing fingers---I have my sins and human frailties too..but this needs to be addressed in a discussion forum out of respect for all members.


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith :)

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