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vimesey
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Message 842 of 848 (869914)
01-08-2020 11:46 AM
Reply to: Message 841 by Percy
01-08-2020 11:28 AM


Re: Licenses Should be Required of All Guns Owners
Reasonable person: "This case is a spectacularly good argument for the introduction of, at the very least, licensing for guns."

Gun nut: "No way - that's Commie big state - we want absolute freedom to do what the hell we want ! Land of the free, and all that."

Reasonable person: "So what do you propose doing about shootings by people who are not mentally competent?"

Gun nut: "Hell, they should have been picked up by mental health checks and locked up !"

Reasonable person: "So you're saying the state should be conducting regular and extensive mental health checks on all our citizens, and locking up those who aren't mentally competent ?"

Gun nut: "fzzbt bzzzt - DOES NOT COMPUTE - fzzbt bzzzt"


Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 843 of 848 (869993)
01-10-2020 1:01 PM
Reply to: Message 841 by Percy
01-08-2020 11:28 AM


Re: Licenses Should be Required of All Guns Owners
Licensing that requires periodic renewal, say every five years just like for a driver's license, would have caught this man's problems years ago. Gun licensing should be required in all 50 states and all territories.

How would you propose going about enforcing it when the people enforcing the law aren't armed either? Laws are useless without enforcement.


"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

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Theodoric
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Message 844 of 848 (869994)
01-10-2020 1:48 PM
Reply to: Message 843 by Hyroglyphx
01-10-2020 1:01 PM


Re: Licenses Should be Required of All Guns Owners
Are you saying that gun owners can only be licensed under force of arms?
If a person needs to have armed law enforcement to force them to get a license , then that is pretty good evidence they should not be able to have a gun.

Edited by Theodoric, : Last word changed from license


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 845 of 848 (870069)
01-11-2020 11:35 AM
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01-10-2020 1:48 PM


Re: Licenses Should be Required of All Guns Owners
Theodoric writes:

Are you saying that gun owners can only be licensed under force of arms?


There's that "law-abiding gun owners" thing again - They'll obey any law but that one.

"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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Percy
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Message 846 of 848 (870962)
01-26-2020 8:37 PM
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01-10-2020 1:01 PM


Re: Licenses Should be Required of All Guns Owners
Just noticed your message.

Hyroglyphx writes:

Licensing that requires periodic renewal, say every five years just like for a driver's license, would have caught this man's problems years ago. Gun licensing should be required in all 50 states and all territories.

How would you propose going about enforcing it when the people enforcing the law aren't armed either? Laws are useless without enforcement.

You've asked me pretty much the same question at least several times. Do you really not recall?

--Percy


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jar
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Message 847 of 848 (870976)
01-27-2020 8:21 AM


Current stats
Currently over seventeen million US citizens are already licensed to Conceal Carry firearms in the US. There are also fourteen Permitless Carry States. The statistics on crimes committed by those who hold a license to carry are also interesting. Between 2005 and 2007 an average of only 703 crimes of ALL types were committed by those holding a license to carry which is about six times less that the average for police officers committing crimes.

Source

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Theodoric
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Message 848 of 848 (870977)
01-27-2020 8:51 AM
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01-11-2020 11:35 AM


Re: Licenses Should be Required of All Guns Owners
Kind of telling that I never did get an answer.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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