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LNA, you are taking stuff out of context there son, doing the same dishonest quotemining as the Biblical Christians. There was more to his comment and he then went on to explain the context in full.
Go back and include all of the statement.
I just read it in context.
So?
Well, it sure beats "The Holy Spirit did it".
I think it would be a lot more honest if "church" was described accurately.
It was the Roman government "church".
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Rome believes the (GOVERNMENT IMPOSED) church was infallible when it determined which books belong in the New Testament. Protestants believe the (GOVERNMENT) church acted rightly and accurately in this process, but not infallibly.
So now the Holy Spirit is taken out of it and a Roman government "church", however "correct", is seen as the agent.
Now, some more hopes and wishes:
Next the verse divisions and chapters can be seen as not original to the authors or early Christian community.
Then certain verses themselves (like Mark 16:9-20, John 7:53-8:11) can be seen as not inspired.
(I'm sure everything is still seen as "accurate" and "correct" in its present state and will be even after an admission)
At least there is a ray of sunshine away from the "God did it" and more in the direction of "Man did some of it".
Progress in society often comes in tinny tiny baby steps, and can be quite slow (glacial as opposed to meteoric). Look at all the newer Bible translations that will (almost) admit that Mark 16:9-20 was added on to the actual text. Previously everybody thought the Bible was written from the very pen of God, and in English boot! Many (or most?) still do. I will take all the light that can be had.
But carry on with the main discussion.