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Author Topic:   R.C.Sprouls Teaching On Reformed Theology
LamarkNewAge
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Message 7 of 175 (824443)
11-28-2017 11:49 PM


"The Bible is a fallible collection" R C Sproul
Sorry for no reply on my other topic, will not be so busy in a few days.

But I was always trying to remember the fundamentalist who said this.

I keep forgetting to bring his quotes up (in the few relevant topics when it is appropriate).

I am always grateful when a fundamentalist says something like this.

Just this factor alone should open eyes.


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LamarkNewAge
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Message 16 of 175 (824522)
11-29-2017 11:53 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by jar
11-29-2017 6:59 AM


Re: "The Bible is a fallible collection" R C Sproul
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LNA, you are taking stuff out of context there son, doing the same dishonest quotemining as the Biblical Christians. There was more to his comment and he then went on to explain the context in full.
Go back and include all of the statement.

I just read it in context.

So?

Well, it sure beats "The Holy Spirit did it".

I think it would be a lot more honest if "church" was described accurately.

It was the Roman government "church".

quote:

Rome believes the (GOVERNMENT IMPOSED) church was infallible when it determined which books belong in the New Testament. Protestants believe the (GOVERNMENT) church acted rightly and accurately in this process, but not infallibly.

So now the Holy Spirit is taken out of it and a Roman government "church", however "correct", is seen as the agent.

Now, some more hopes and wishes:

Next the verse divisions and chapters can be seen as not original to the authors or early Christian community.

Then certain verses themselves (like Mark 16:9-20, John 7:53-8:11) can be seen as not inspired.

(I'm sure everything is still seen as "accurate" and "correct" in its present state and will be even after an admission)

At least there is a ray of sunshine away from the "God did it" and more in the direction of "Man did some of it".

Progress in society often comes in tinny tiny baby steps, and can be quite slow (glacial as opposed to meteoric). Look at all the newer Bible translations that will (almost) admit that Mark 16:9-20 was added on to the actual text. Previously everybody thought the Bible was written from the very pen of God, and in English boot! Many (or most?) still do. I will take all the light that can be had.

But carry on with the main discussion.


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Message 20 of 175 (824562)
11-30-2017 11:34 AM
Reply to: Message 17 by jar
11-30-2017 6:49 AM


Re: "The Bible is a fallible collection" R C Sproul
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And that is as dishonest as your quote mining. Sorry but just like the fundies you are just making shit up.

I really need you to explain yourself. (Was it the parenthesis I added? I thought it was an obvious addition, plus I didn't say it was his words)

I don't know what part was dishonest (other than the obvious additions I added, which I thought would be clearly an addition due to my above statements prior to the quote)


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