Re: Is God Always Created By Humans? Implications....
And if we were to honestly confront the storytellers of each era (through our magic time machine) and ask them to honestly admit that they were creating God, they would likely deny such an assertion...
If they were honest, they would at the very least have to acknowledge that they were embellishing. Otherwise, how do you account for the discrepancies?
The "traditional message" was as much about politics as it was about religion. The Church had a vested interest in a stable society, so "the responsibility of being a good and honest person and doing your best " was a message that made sense for them. It also gave the civil authorities an incentive to support the Church.
The Church told people they'd go to Hell if they weren't good citizens. Today we can see that being good citizens can have a good effect here on earth.
The outcome is the same. We're just being good for our own sake instead of for the Church's sake and the government's sake.
So ringo, who was Jesus? Is he more than another in a long line of teachers? Why or why not?
In the story, some men would have said that Jesus was a preacher. Some men might have said that Jesus was the Messiah - and they would have been disappointed when He died without accomplishing anything that the Messiah was supposed to accomplish. Maybe a few men would have said that Jesus was the Son of God; no doubt many of them would have been disappointed too when He died.
Is there any reason to think He was was something other than another preacher? Is there any reason to think He existed at all?
It wasn't until the Holy Spirit came upon them at Pentecost that they understood that it had nothing to do with earthly liberation, but liberation from sin, a spiritual kingdom that is "not of this world."
That's a handy copout. When something isn't fulfilled you claim that the scriptures mean something completely different from what they say. "Ask and ye shall receive" might as well mean that you'll receive spiritual benefis after you die of starvation.