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Author Topic:   R.C.Sprouls Teaching On Reformed Theology
NoNukes
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Message 26 of 175 (824589)
11-30-2017 11:34 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by Phat
11-30-2017 5:48 PM


Re: God Character On Trial
The problem is if I only use Sprouls booklets to defend Sprouls position, I am limiting myself. We can trace Sprouls beliefs back to Calvin. Critics assert that Calvinism is a vile and disgusting creation of humanity.

I challenge you to come up with an interpretation of Calvinism that is not vile. So far the only defenses I have seen but forward are one version or another of "God is not to be judged" or "If God did it, it is by definition not vile even if I cannot explain why".

If you can do better than any of those non-explanations or are claiming that RC Sproul did better than that, I'd love to hear about the details. Tell us what you assert.


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NoNukes
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Message 29 of 175 (824620)
12-01-2017 10:25 AM
Reply to: Message 27 by Phat
12-01-2017 2:42 AM


Re: God Character On Trial
and if Election is true then the God is an vile,

What would be the logical implication of such a stand, however

That is not a difficult question. Christians should just dump Calvinism. Period. Christ said that every man can be saved. Take Jesus at his word.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I was thinking as long as I have my hands up … they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking — they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey

We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World.

Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith

I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith


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NoNukes
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Message 72 of 175 (825065)
12-07-2017 7:07 AM
Reply to: Message 70 by Phat
12-06-2017 11:20 PM


Re: origins
I was surprised to see Sproul defending Calvinism so strictly. Your argument actually has merit, and yet I can also see when Sproul argues that if chance even exists, God is finished.

That argument is nonsense.

He likely would argue that chance only applies to predetermined possibilities

Actually isn't this actually an argument you have made on several occasions? Have you ever convinced anyone that such arguments have merit?

but that ascribing any power to chance to determine anything, it is effectively robbing his God of the power of absolute determinism.

Is absolute determinism essentially in any way? As long as God can overcome chance whenever He so chooses, is chance really any kind of obstacle?


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I was thinking as long as I have my hands up … they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking — they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong. -- Charles Kinsey

We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World.

Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith

I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith


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