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Author Topic:   God’s witness ?
ringo
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Message 4 of 17 (829070)
03-02-2018 12:23 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Phat
03-02-2018 11:51 AM


Re: Human Nature
Phat writes:
I was always taught (and believed) that standing for something was better than falling for just anything (or nothing).
By that logic, it's better to stand for the "wrong" gods than to be unsure of which gods, if any, are real.

An honest discussion is more of a peer review than a pep rally. My toughest critics here are the people who agree with me. -- ringo

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ringo
Member (Idle past 432 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
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Message 14 of 17 (829208)
03-04-2018 1:17 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Phat
03-03-2018 4:53 PM


Re: Human Nature
Phat writes:
Your life is so based on evidence that you would stand forever...if necessary...waiting for the evidence and never choose to believe anything.
It isn't about evidence. It's about probability. The probability is that you will "choose" the god that was presented to you by your culture. There is no guarantee that that god has any relation to "the real God", if such a thing even exists. If you were really making a choice, you'd examine the other possibilities before jumping on the first one.
Phat writes:
In my belief there is only one of them anyway, so the decision is to basically either choose or not choose....
That's a convenient and comforting doctrine that you've concocted for yourself. Can you bring yourself to actually swallow it or are you just whistling in the dark?
Phat writes:
What your sentence should say is this: By that logic, its better to choose than to wait for evidence.
No.
The logic of any-choice-is-better-than-no-choice is the logic of leaping without looking.

An honest discussion is more of a peer review than a pep rally. My toughest critics here are the people who agree with me. -- ringo

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ringo
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From: frozen wasteland
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Message 15 of 17 (829211)
03-04-2018 1:22 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Phat
03-04-2018 9:32 AM


Re: Human Nature and Atheism
Phat writes:
Since the rich pay most of the taxes, are they doing the will of God through their taxes?
quote:
Luke21:1-4 And he looked up, and saw the rich men casting their gifts into the treasury. And he saw also a certain poor widow casting in thither two mites. And he said, Of a truth I say unto you, that this poor widow hath cast in more than they all: For all these have of their abundance cast in unto the offerings of God: but she of her penury hath cast in all the living that she had.
It isn't about how much you give. It's about how much you hold back - and that doesn't just apply to cash.

An honest discussion is more of a peer review than a pep rally. My toughest critics here are the people who agree with me. -- ringo

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