Your link doesn't show anything wrong in what Dr Adequate posted. It just looks at a longer time frame, and if you include the massive outlier of September 11th 2001 (Dr A's graphic was looking at only the last decade) Islamic terrorists of course have killed the most. Your link notes, however, that over the same period right wing terrorists have killed more than left wing ones in the US.
I'm not really sure of the value of all these comparisons though. Very few people die due to terrorism. Whether or not one individual gets caught or changes their mind two minutes before carrying out their potentially devastating subway attack has enormous influence on the figures. Can't we just agree that terrorism is bad instead of using it to further polarise the American public?
It's not significantly more prevalent (by death). By death is not the only way to measure terrorism. Left wing terrorism is far more prevalent today. Antifa is a terrorist organization, and while there is no cut and dry way to measure it's membership because they all hide like cowards, it's estimated to be in the tens of thousands.
Any administration should be worried about this, as well as any American.
Right and Left Wing Rants....are they worth our time?
Havent seen you around for awhile, Rat. How have you been anyway? Still flying model airplanes? Let me read up on all your comments and reply to you here.....(*reads comments*)
What I don't like is how we are obsessed with tying these horrific acts to an ideology, and not mental illness. As if to say, see, being a right winger is bad, you're all bad.
Agreed, but it seems the main focus of these debates/discussions is the ideologies themselves. I self-identify as a political moderate. Our society does have a lot of mental illness these days. We blame the guns rather than mental illness. We also could blame the prevalence of social media for stirring up the arguments, and we could ask ourselves why we personally feel the need to comment and/or defend our own personal views.
Rat, responding to ringo writes:
You are what is wrong with America.
He is right though...he is a left-wing Canadian. Perhaps a question to ask is if he were a right-wing Canadian would he still be part of the problem rather than the solution? I've been hanging out here quite a few years, and ringo is one who is articulate and opinionated in his responses to our posts. He gets under my skin occasionally but I'm glad he is around.
Caffeine, replying to Rat writes:
Can't we just agree that terrorism is bad instead of using it to further polarise the American public?
Well that was the purpose of my post, but all who replied felt it was more important to assign an ideology to it.
I'm guessing you are a moderate leaning towards conservative values...but are moderate enough to consider all ideologies as equally valid (or useless).
Would you say that your worldview has been influenced by the church or would you argue that you are balanced enough in life to associate with a broader spectrum of people than just believers?
Left-wing terrorism is far more prevalent today. Antifa is a terrorist organization, and while there is no cut and dry way to measure it's membership because they all hide like cowards, it's estimated to be in the tens of thousands.
1)it's absolutely impossible to say. Left-wing and right-wing are notions which aren’t the same for every person.
I will take as an example two countries I know a bit: France and the USA.
In the USA, here is how people see these politics:
American politicians Barrack Obama: left-wing Ted Cruz: right-wing Donald Trump: far right-wing
French politicians François Hollande: left-wing Nicolas Sarkozy: centre right-wing Marine Lepen: far right-wing
In France, here is how we see these same politicians:
American politicians Barrack Obama: centre right-wing Ted Cruz: almost far right-wing Donald Trump: very far right-wing French politicians François Hollande: centre left-wing, even right-wing by some people these days Nicolas Sarkozy: almost far right-wing or right-wing, depends on the day Marine Lepen: far right-wing We can’t define a precise political spectrum, given the fact that it depends on where you live, how you’ve been educated, and what kind of right and left you are used to. ... Though I have no statistical data, I am sure that number of Right Wings are far over than Left Wings. ... 2) Easily right-wing.
There’s an acronym used in psychology: WEIRD. It stands for Western, Educated, Industrialized, Rich and Democratic, but it’s also intended to show that the distinctive worldview of educated people from Western nations is held by a minority of the world’s population.
Since the founding of civilization, most people’s idea of a good society has been a well-ordered hierarchy. When everyone and everything is in the proper, divinely-ordained place, there is order. When this hierarchy is disrupted, there is chaos.
The WEIRD worldview is a relative newcomer.
Food for thought.
And glad to see you posting.
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