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PaulK
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Message 61 of 139 (849028)
02-21-2019 11:29 AM


ADL report
pdf download


2018 was a particularly active year for right-wing extremist murders: Every single extremist killing — from Pittsburgh to Parkland — had a link to right-wing extremism.


2018, domestic extremists killed at least 50 people in the U.S., a sharp increase from the 37 extremist- related murders documented in 2017, though still lower than the totals for 2015 (70) and 2016 (72). The 50 deaths make 2018 the fourth-deadliest year on record for domestic extremist-related killings since 1970.


Firearms remain the weapon of choice for extremists who kill. Guns were responsible for 42 of the 50 deaths in 2018, followed by blades or edged weapons.

Plenty more detail in the report for those who want it.

ABE

Interesting to compare this with Riverrat’s figures:


Right-wing extremists
are responsible for the vast majority of extremist-related murders over the last decade

Right-Wing Extremism (all movements): 73.3%
Left-Wing Extremism (including anarchists & black nationalists): 3.2%
Islamist Extremism: 23.4%

Note: Total deaths include both ideologically and non-ideologically motivated killings.

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Message 62 of 139 (849598)
03-15-2019 2:13 PM


And in New Zealand
Christchurch shootings: 49 dead in New Zealand mosque attacks

49 people shot dead at two mosques. The Bangladesh cricket team were minutes away from one of the mosques. The attackers also seem to have attached bombs to cars in the area.


    
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Message 63 of 139 (851545)
04-28-2019 3:18 AM


Another Synagogue Shooting - In San Diego
NY Times

Only one person killed this time.

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Message 64 of 139 (851557)
04-28-2019 2:36 PM
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Re: Another Synagogue Shooting - In San Diego
From the Guardian:

Trump’s record on white nationalism under new scrutiny after synagogue shooting

The administration has already been warned by security agencies of the growing dangers of white supremacy in the US. In May 2017 the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security [DHS] authored a joint bulletin declaring that white nationalists had been responsible for more attacks than any other domestic extremist group in the US over the past 16 years and “likely will continue to pose a threat of lethal violence over the next year.”

Hell hath no fury like a white man scorned. If you take nothing else from the Senate’s confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh, take that much. -- Kai Wright

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Message 65 of 139 (851559)
04-28-2019 3:05 PM
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Re: Another Synagogue Shooting - In San Diego
By my understanding it’s not just Trump. The Republicans have been opposed to the FBI investigating far-right groups for some years. It’s “persecuting” “conservatives” it seems.
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Message 66 of 139 (851560)
04-28-2019 3:46 PM
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Re: Another Synagogue Shooting - In San Diego
Good point. It was my intent to remind people about this long term tendency of American conservatives to pretend that warnings about rightwing terrorism are a liberal plot. I didn't mean to suggest that this is new with Trump.

Hell hath no fury like a white man scorned. If you take nothing else from the Senate’s confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh, take that much. -- Kai Wright

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Message 67 of 139 (851563)
04-28-2019 6:08 PM
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Re: Another Synagogue Shooting - In San Diego
I know the solution to the entire gun control problem! I know that it will work, because it worked before!

Just get a photograph of a bunch of big black men holding assault weapons.

That worked for California in the late 1960's:

For other photos: look here

Just one look at blacks armed to the teeth was more than enough to persuade whites to support gun control. I see no reason why it should be any less persuasive now.

{ABE: OK, those look like shotguns. So get a new photo of blacks with AR-15s. What's the problem?}

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Message 68 of 139 (851589)
04-29-2019 8:22 AM
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Re: Another Synagogue Shooting - In San Diego
And the bill to make carrying any loaded gun in public was introduced by a Republican, passed by a Republican majority Legislature and signed into law by Gov Ronald Reagan.

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Message 69 of 139 (851607)
04-29-2019 2:23 PM
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Re: Another Synagogue Shooting - In San Diego
THIS SHOOTING AND THE PITTSBURG SHOOTING IIRC, ONE OTHER ANYWAY, WERE DONE BY TRUMP HATERS WHO CONSIDER HIM TO BE A ZIONIST, YOU BLITHERING IDIOT! I GOT IT FROM LIMBAUGH. YOU CAN LOOK IT UP IF THERE IS ANY NONLEFTIST MEDIA SOURCE AVAILABLE ANYWHERE ON THE PLANET.
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PaulK
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Message 70 of 139 (851611)
04-29-2019 2:32 PM
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Re: Another Synagogue Shooting - In San Diego
Nobody said that either was a Trump supporter.

Now do you want to address what people have said or are you just going to keep hurling insults ?


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Message 71 of 139 (851613)
04-29-2019 2:37 PM
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Re: Another Synagogue Shooting - In San Diego
YOU CALL IT "RIGHT WING TERRORISM" YOU DOLT. IT'S NOT, IT'S LEFT WING.
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Message 72 of 139 (851614)
04-29-2019 2:44 PM
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Re: Another Synagogue Shooting - In San Diego
quote:

YOU CALL IT "RIGHT WING TERRORISM" YOU DOLT. IT'S NOT, IT'S LEFT WING.

Being too far to the Right even to support Trump doesn’t make him Left Wing.


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Message 73 of 139 (851615)
04-29-2019 2:44 PM


As An Aside...

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith

You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile


  
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Message 74 of 139 (851617)
04-29-2019 2:49 PM
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04-29-2019 2:23 PM


Re: Another Synagogue Shooting - In San Diego
Faith writes:

THIS SHOOTING AND THE PITTSBURG SHOOTING IIRC, ONE OTHER ANYWAY, WERE DONE BY TRUMP HATERS WHO CONSIDER HIM TO BE A ZIONIST

Again, perhaps if you calmed down you could think a bit more before posting.

Although, finding out that you think liking/hating Trump is a defining trait for being right/left-politically oriented is a very telling piece of your puzzle.

Right/Left is actually more complex than liking/hating the current President. In general, it's more defined by the policies one adheres to - becoming more complicated as most specific people don't accept "all policies" of one side or the other.
The terms are also generally avoided by anyone with any decent level of political empathy - as they are currently used by extremely loud, obnoxious and insulting blow-hards who are unable to understand the finer points involved.


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Message 75 of 139 (851620)
04-29-2019 2:58 PM
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Re: Another Synagogue Shooting - In San Diego
HATING TRUMP IS LEFT WING, WHAT ELSE DO YOU THINK IT COULD BE? IT DOMINATES THE FAKE NEWS LYING MEDIA AND THE ENTIRE LEFT STARTING EVEN BEFORE TRUMP GOT ELECTED. THE LEFT HAS NO OTHER MOTIVE THAN TO TRY TO DESTROY THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY. YOU NEED TO WAKE UP. THIS IS NO LONGER AMERICA, THE LEFT IS ACTING LIKE A THIRD WORLD TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENT TRYING TO DESTROY ITS OPPOSITION.

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