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Message 20 of 610 (831878)
04-26-2018 9:53 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by Rrhain
04-25-2018 8:04 PM


Re: A Thought on the Toronto Van Rampage
Rrhain writes:

And what part of "the guy was white" played into your analysis?

Let's not pretend that Canada has defeated racism.

And I don't believe that humans ever will fully defeat our prejudices and preconceived profilings. We will simply get better than we used to be, hopefully.

Stile is right---you always like to push activist causes. Are you one of them radicals?


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Phat
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Message 104 of 610 (836297)
07-14-2018 9:31 AM
Reply to: Message 102 by Percy
07-14-2018 8:03 AM


Proposed Solution
Percy, responding to Hyroglyphyx writes:

"Rank and file police in *most jurisdictions* shouldn't have guns. That's my position. Rebut that."

The only problem as I see it is that Rank and file citizenry, even in small rural jurisdictions, do have guns. Guns are a uniquely American problem, and disarming law enforcement won't make the problem go away.

Perhaps one solution would be to provide the police with another weapon that would be lethal in immobilizing suspects yet non-fatal, like a tranquilizer gun.


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith :)

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Phat
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Message 163 of 610 (844460)
11-30-2018 11:47 AM
Reply to: Message 162 by Percy
11-30-2018 8:38 AM


Re: Police Murder Fleeing Man at Alabama Mall
The guns have to be taken off the streets, taken away altogether, even from police with the exception of specially trained forces.
How would we make sure there was no black market or that some were hiding weapons? In other words, how specifically could all guns be accounted for should we vote to take them all away?

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

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Message 248 of 610 (860757)
08-11-2019 3:43 PM
Reply to: Message 247 by ringo
08-11-2019 2:57 PM


Re: Dayton Shooting
That, and I think he means that there would always be a market...legally or illegally and that legislation alone wont stop the spread of or existence of guns.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith

You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile


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Phat
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Message 484 of 610 (877124)
06-05-2020 6:13 AM
Reply to: Message 481 by jar
06-03-2020 7:37 AM


Re: The Silencing of the Press
I'm not understanding your point. Is it deadpan humor? Irony? Satire? My opinion is that it is a mistake to paint "white" as a newly oppressed group. You will simply cause more conflict. And no, I will not trim the hedges or mow the lawn. My position is equal to any other group. I am no longer entitled to more, but I certainly won't settle for less. Don't fan the flames. The issue of Floyd is not a black thing or an anti-white thing. It is human behavior in general.

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Phat
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Message 549 of 610 (882462)
09-24-2020 10:22 AM
Reply to: Message 546 by vimesey
09-23-2020 11:18 PM


Judgement Calls
Interesting exchange between you and Hyro. Here is my 2 cents.

  • Anyone of us can be a Monday Morning Quarterback. The police are responsible for what they do. It is fair to question why the guy was even shot 7 times, but that is a judgement call made by the officers who responded.

    As for handcuffing him to the gurney, is it possible that he was thrashing around (or could have tried) and may end up paralyzing himself for life in so doing?

    Perhaps handcuffing Blake to the gurney was for his own safety and not done as an overreaction of his perceived threat towards others...but mainly himself?


    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
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    “The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
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