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Dogmafood
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Message 27 of 610 (831965)
04-28-2018 7:13 AM
Reply to: Message 26 by Rrhain
04-27-2018 6:58 PM


Re: A Thought on the Toronto Van Rampage
It's the same in Canada. Of the 52 people killed by the Toronto cops between 2000 and 2017, 19 were black. That's 36.5% despite Toronto's black population being only 8.3%.

Without checking, I would assume that almost all of them were male. Are the Toronto police also sexist or is the threat from males actually greater than it is from females despite being only half the population? Apparently you think that every black man who gets shot by the police is an example of racism and every white person who doesn't is an example of privilege.

Excessive use of force by the police is a problem regardless of who the force is directed at.


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Dogmafood
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Message 33 of 610 (832228)
05-01-2018 6:31 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by Rrhain
04-30-2018 11:05 PM


Re: A Thought on the Toronto Van Rampage
Insert cliche about what happens when you "assume."

I was responding to your assumption that Alek Minassian wasn't shot because he wasn't black. I don't see how you could know that. It looked to me that he wasn't shot because he did not represent an imminent threat to the officer.

I haven't said anything about gender and police.

No that was me pointing out that the police shoot many more men than women. By your logic this would indicate that police shootings are influenced by sexism because the number of male victims is disproportionate to their percentage of the population.

Privilege is not a magic wand.

Right.

And if you don't understand why the force is being used and the motivations behind its abuse, you will never be able to solve the problem.

Of course we want to understand why the abuse of authority might be happening but we don't need to in order to prevent it. You solve the problem by restricting the use of force in general and by training your police to deescalate and by holding your police accountable for their actions.


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